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		By: Cesar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cesar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Municipality utilities view solar installers as competitors and homes with solar as losing revenue.
Australia is one example. After years of successfully promoting home solar installations, the utility now penalizes solar owners for overloading their systems, which requires network upgrades. Another perspective is resilience. Florida has frequent storms and outages, so homeowners who can afford solar battery backup will have emergency power. Vendors who provide these installations should be encouraged and not viewed as competition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Municipality utilities view solar installers as competitors and homes with solar as losing revenue.<br />
Australia is one example. After years of successfully promoting home solar installations, the utility now penalizes solar owners for overloading their systems, which requires network upgrades. Another perspective is resilience. Florida has frequent storms and outages, so homeowners who can afford solar battery backup will have emergency power. Vendors who provide these installations should be encouraged and not viewed as competition.</p>
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		By: Wade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 00:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am glad you cleared that up MC so I did not have to, agree with all but Lloyd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad you cleared that up MC so I did not have to, agree with all but Lloyd.</p>
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		By: MC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. Lloyd is so wrong about solar on so many levels. Maybe he should take the photovoltaics class offered at one of the local colleges or just do a little research about the global solar industry.  There is nothing special or different about the solar panels at the COT plant or the sunshine for that matter. There is no way they can send strictly Solar generated power to any subscribers. If you want to make sure you are getting solar power  at your house, use the same sunshine at your house with your own Solar Power system. Don’t forget to add in how COT cut out local contractors to build their system, how they  hired an out of state GC to build it and a foreign based finance company to run off with a $13 million dollar federal tax credit that COT is ineligible for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Lloyd is so wrong about solar on so many levels. Maybe he should take the photovoltaics class offered at one of the local colleges or just do a little research about the global solar industry.  There is nothing special or different about the solar panels at the COT plant or the sunshine for that matter. There is no way they can send strictly Solar generated power to any subscribers. If you want to make sure you are getting solar power  at your house, use the same sunshine at your house with your own Solar Power system. Don’t forget to add in how COT cut out local contractors to build their system, how they  hired an out of state GC to build it and a foreign based finance company to run off with a $13 million dollar federal tax credit that COT is ineligible for.</p>
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		By: Lloyd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lloyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have to applaud the City of Tallahassee&#039;s solar expansion. Great, insightful, and consistent with US and global developments. Utilities all over FL and the US are adding Solar and its increasingly becoming an expectation of their customers. It is unfortunate in the way COT marketed solar to customers and any perceived impact on local companies (lets see the data), though there seems to be some of the blame game going on. Putting solar on the power grid and then making an equivalency to standalone solar installations and blaming the city is irresponsible. 

Individual solar installation in Tallahassee is still a &quot;niche&quot; business. The demographics and market conditions are just not there for wide-spread &quot;stand-alone&quot; consumer and business installations. Most can&#039;t afford systems, others don&#039;t want to deal with rooftop installation issues, unsightliness, and question return on investment. Sadly, the general population seems not to care. Unless we add &quot;coal stoked&quot; heating/air we can&#039;t expect incentives from the Trump administration.

In many ways, stand-alone solar installations are outdated, a &quot;thing&quot; of the past. Solar technology in other parts of the world has passed us by along with hundreds of thousands of jobs lost forever. China is the worlds leader in innovation and massive power grid applications to their citizens, not the US. The innovations and sizes (such as floating farm&#039;s) are beyond what most American&#039;s can imagine. Even Nomads living in the grasslands are provided with solar, have smartphones, and, rooftop solar and solar hot-water has been around for many years before the dawning of &quot;farms.&quot; It is part of their national policy and strategic development (unlike the US), and citizen expectations. 

The City of Tallahassee is not a competitor or culprit. As long as our citizens devalue renewable energy, our government promotes and offers incentives to the petroleum and coal industries (lobbyists), drops out of global participation, and offers regressive leadership, the future of our local companies is uncertain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to applaud the City of Tallahassee&#8217;s solar expansion. Great, insightful, and consistent with US and global developments. Utilities all over FL and the US are adding Solar and its increasingly becoming an expectation of their customers. It is unfortunate in the way COT marketed solar to customers and any perceived impact on local companies (lets see the data), though there seems to be some of the blame game going on. Putting solar on the power grid and then making an equivalency to standalone solar installations and blaming the city is irresponsible. </p>
<p>Individual solar installation in Tallahassee is still a &#8220;niche&#8221; business. The demographics and market conditions are just not there for wide-spread &#8220;stand-alone&#8221; consumer and business installations. Most can&#8217;t afford systems, others don&#8217;t want to deal with rooftop installation issues, unsightliness, and question return on investment. Sadly, the general population seems not to care. Unless we add &#8220;coal stoked&#8221; heating/air we can&#8217;t expect incentives from the Trump administration.</p>
<p>In many ways, stand-alone solar installations are outdated, a &#8220;thing&#8221; of the past. Solar technology in other parts of the world has passed us by along with hundreds of thousands of jobs lost forever. China is the worlds leader in innovation and massive power grid applications to their citizens, not the US. The innovations and sizes (such as floating farm&#8217;s) are beyond what most American&#8217;s can imagine. Even Nomads living in the grasslands are provided with solar, have smartphones, and, rooftop solar and solar hot-water has been around for many years before the dawning of &#8220;farms.&#8221; It is part of their national policy and strategic development (unlike the US), and citizen expectations. </p>
<p>The City of Tallahassee is not a competitor or culprit. As long as our citizens devalue renewable energy, our government promotes and offers incentives to the petroleum and coal industries (lobbyists), drops out of global participation, and offers regressive leadership, the future of our local companies is uncertain.</p>
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		By: Joseph Jenkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2018 01:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The city is trying to stymy roof top distributed solar by saying their central solar accomplishes the same thing. Central solar prevents customers from bypassing the cost for central electric delivery, i.e. transmission and distribution power line costs. In the long-term,  stymying distributed roof-top solar results in more capital intensive power plants needed to supply increased power demands  raising electric rates from what they otherwise would have been. Slick move Tallahassee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city is trying to stymy roof top distributed solar by saying their central solar accomplishes the same thing. Central solar prevents customers from bypassing the cost for central electric delivery, i.e. transmission and distribution power line costs. In the long-term,  stymying distributed roof-top solar results in more capital intensive power plants needed to supply increased power demands  raising electric rates from what they otherwise would have been. Slick move Tallahassee.</p>
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		By: buddy brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buddy brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2018 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry but i refuse to believe that these people buying solar power believe they have seperate switching for solar when they have no seperate switching set-up set up just for them to receive only solar.duh...duh...buddy brown 66 yr old
  electrician/electromics repairman/solar installer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but i refuse to believe that these people buying solar power believe they have seperate switching for solar when they have no seperate switching set-up set up just for them to receive only solar.duh&#8230;duh&#8230;buddy brown 66 yr old<br />
  electrician/electromics repairman/solar installer.</p>
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		By: Phil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 03:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But I do like Mike&#039;s statements about drinking water for the hurricanes.  I bought several 5 gallon jugs after I moved here in 1989.  I just fill them with water before the tropical storms and hurricanes make there way nearby.  Opal, Erin, Beryl, Earl, Alberto, and all those storms in 2004 and 05.  And now of course Hermine and Irma.    

Best idea though was plugging my inverter  into my car and running an extension cord into my house running my router/modem (yes I still have a land line that did not go out and so I had DSL), my laptop, and a small flat screen tv.   A $15 digital antenna from Walmart and a $30 inverter gave me total contact with the world while power was out for a few days. I am sure I could have  plugged in a fan if I had to also.   I even had a solar powered radio that i used to listen to Preston.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I do like Mike&#8217;s statements about drinking water for the hurricanes.  I bought several 5 gallon jugs after I moved here in 1989.  I just fill them with water before the tropical storms and hurricanes make there way nearby.  Opal, Erin, Beryl, Earl, Alberto, and all those storms in 2004 and 05.  And now of course Hermine and Irma.    </p>
<p>Best idea though was plugging my inverter  into my car and running an extension cord into my house running my router/modem (yes I still have a land line that did not go out and so I had DSL), my laptop, and a small flat screen tv.   A $15 digital antenna from Walmart and a $30 inverter gave me total contact with the world while power was out for a few days. I am sure I could have  plugged in a fan if I had to also.   I even had a solar powered radio that i used to listen to Preston.</p>
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		By: Roger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2018 02:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The City should go ahead and add Inc. after their name and admit they are a for-profit entity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City should go ahead and add Inc. after their name and admit they are a for-profit entity.</p>
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		By: Thomas C. Hooker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas C. Hooker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Edison Competes with Mike Ferrara...Your own utilities competes with Mr. Chentik.  Big surprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Edison Competes with Mike Ferrara&#8230;Your own utilities competes with Mr. Chentik.  Big surprise.</p>
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		By: Snidely Whiplash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snidely Whiplash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2017 11:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2017/12/30/citing-harm-to-local-businesses-company-asks-city-to-halt-solar-subscription-program/#comment-116353&quot;&gt;News Maven&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking from the common sense viewpoint only which is often very different from the legal viewpoint; 
I&#039;m feeling the COT misrepresentation in the way they lured gullible citizens into thinking solar power would magically be transported into their homes and business&#039; thru the same wires their neighbors get their electricity from by paying COT a higher rate than their neighbors is an organized criminal fraud scam and very likely something FL Atty Gen Bondi should prosecute COT for. Very similar to price gouging from disabled citizens considering the dysfunctional brains of the simpletons in Tallahassee who keep voting for these criminal elected officials.
Furthermore a business focused Governor who &quot;oh by the way&quot; is also running for Congress should have great interest in  the subscription program which made the City’s electric utility a direct competitor with local solar companies. 
I know both Bondi and Scott can both play the safe easy card that there is an ongoing Federal investigation into COT and they must keep Florida&#039;s hands off. 
But really Pam and Rick this is the same FBI that let your Granny Hillary off the hook and was deep-stated so far up the rear of the former POTUS...need I say more???
Hello Pam and Rick the citizens need some relief from YOU here in the Capitol City of Florida!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tallahasseereports.com/2017/12/30/citing-harm-to-local-businesses-company-asks-city-to-halt-solar-subscription-program/#comment-116353">News Maven</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking from the common sense viewpoint only which is often very different from the legal viewpoint;<br />
I&#8217;m feeling the COT misrepresentation in the way they lured gullible citizens into thinking solar power would magically be transported into their homes and business&#8217; thru the same wires their neighbors get their electricity from by paying COT a higher rate than their neighbors is an organized criminal fraud scam and very likely something FL Atty Gen Bondi should prosecute COT for. Very similar to price gouging from disabled citizens considering the dysfunctional brains of the simpletons in Tallahassee who keep voting for these criminal elected officials.<br />
Furthermore a business focused Governor who &#8220;oh by the way&#8221; is also running for Congress should have great interest in  the subscription program which made the City’s electric utility a direct competitor with local solar companies.<br />
I know both Bondi and Scott can both play the safe easy card that there is an ongoing Federal investigation into COT and they must keep Florida&#8217;s hands off.<br />
But really Pam and Rick this is the same FBI that let your Granny Hillary off the hook and was deep-stated so far up the rear of the former POTUS&#8230;need I say more???<br />
Hello Pam and Rick the citizens need some relief from YOU here in the Capitol City of Florida!</p>
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