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		By: Jane Robelt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Robelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 03:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135322&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

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<p>Possible conflict of interest?</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135971&quot;&gt;Nonya&lt;/a&gt;.

I need more information to back your claims.

I have a 2000+ sq. ft. home, all under air, all electric appliances including well pump. My A/C is set at 79 during the day, 78 at night. Someone is always home and all meals are home cooked (not microwaved) 
My FPL budget plan bill is ~$85/ month year round.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135971">Nonya</a>.</p>
<p>I need more information to back your claims.</p>
<p>I have a 2000+ sq. ft. home, all under air, all electric appliances including well pump. My A/C is set at 79 during the day, 78 at night. Someone is always home and all meals are home cooked (not microwaved)<br />
My FPL budget plan bill is ~$85/ month year round.</p>
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		By: phil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did a literature search and I found that the cost to bury power lines runs between $1.8 million a mile to $4.5 million a mile.   So if you identified the major arterials and assumed a length in Leon Co of about 15 miles per roadway, you could guestimate a rough cost: Appalachee Pkwy, Monroe St, Mahan Drive, Tennessee St, Thomasville Rd, Centerville Rd, Miccosukee Rd, Meridan Rd,  Woodville Highway, Crawfordville Highway .  Ten roadway corridors, 15 x 10 = 150 miles  X  $5 million per mile = $750 million&#062;  Obviously these are the major trunk lines and the connection from the trunk line to the subdivision or home would be another expense.    Many subdivisions  have buried utilities, and I believe all new construct of subdivisions requires buried utilities.

But for $750M,  or $75M per corridor the city would do one corridor every few years. Prioritize and take them one by one&#062; it may take 30 years to get there but it will be well worth it.  If Hurricane Michael destroys much of the infrastructure, and tree cover, a  nice federal or state grant to rebuild and bury would be sensible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a literature search and I found that the cost to bury power lines runs between $1.8 million a mile to $4.5 million a mile.   So if you identified the major arterials and assumed a length in Leon Co of about 15 miles per roadway, you could guestimate a rough cost: Appalachee Pkwy, Monroe St, Mahan Drive, Tennessee St, Thomasville Rd, Centerville Rd, Miccosukee Rd, Meridan Rd,  Woodville Highway, Crawfordville Highway .  Ten roadway corridors, 15 x 10 = 150 miles  X  $5 million per mile = $750 million&gt;  Obviously these are the major trunk lines and the connection from the trunk line to the subdivision or home would be another expense.    Many subdivisions  have buried utilities, and I believe all new construct of subdivisions requires buried utilities.</p>
<p>But for $750M,  or $75M per corridor the city would do one corridor every few years. Prioritize and take them one by one&gt; it may take 30 years to get there but it will be well worth it.  If Hurricane Michael destroys much of the infrastructure, and tree cover, a  nice federal or state grant to rebuild and bury would be sensible.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The two women in the &quot;Gillum let us down&quot; commercials apparently don&#039;t know what Florida is like after a hurricane. A week without power is not unusual -- it is expected! Even in the worst conditions, three weeks might not be out of line. In hurricane Andrew, I&#039;m pretty sure some folks went for months.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two women in the &#8220;Gillum let us down&#8221; commercials apparently don&#8217;t know what Florida is like after a hurricane. A week without power is not unusual &#8212; it is expected! Even in the worst conditions, three weeks might not be out of line. In hurricane Andrew, I&#8217;m pretty sure some folks went for months.</p>
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		By: Virginia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 13:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came to a local source and found it&#039;s doing a good job reporting the facts. I wish as always that I hadn&#039;t read the comments. I went to high school in the Panhandle. Sorry to see the ignorance &#038; racism that I knew then appears to still exist, at least by the tone &#038; even the outright words in some of these comments. The same people who scream about how bad &quot;socialism&quot; is (which, in America, just means taxes), will also scream about potholes in the road, how unfair it is that if you get cancer you have to go bankrupt, and how horrible it is that FL has sunk to near the bottom in almost every ranking of public schools. The people who made the ugly comments about FAMU students should be ashamed of themselves, but I know they&#039;re not. I pray that we balance our government out - one party rule is not good for anyone - and begin to work together. That is the only way that we will save ALL of the freedoms we say we love so dearly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to a local source and found it&#8217;s doing a good job reporting the facts. I wish as always that I hadn&#8217;t read the comments. I went to high school in the Panhandle. Sorry to see the ignorance &amp; racism that I knew then appears to still exist, at least by the tone &amp; even the outright words in some of these comments. The same people who scream about how bad &#8220;socialism&#8221; is (which, in America, just means taxes), will also scream about potholes in the road, how unfair it is that if you get cancer you have to go bankrupt, and how horrible it is that FL has sunk to near the bottom in almost every ranking of public schools. The people who made the ugly comments about FAMU students should be ashamed of themselves, but I know they&#8217;re not. I pray that we balance our government out &#8211; one party rule is not good for anyone &#8211; and begin to work together. That is the only way that we will save ALL of the freedoms we say we love so dearly.</p>
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		By: Nonya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nonya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 13:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135390&quot;&gt;James&lt;/a&gt;.

WRONG.....another non thinking comment without any research. Ther is no longer any corporation in America that is ethical when it comes to their bottom line. FPL rapes its customers does $300/ month sound cheap to you? single family home A/C set at 85 degrees on hottest days otherwise off. all lights off and three people living in house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135390">James</a>.</p>
<p>WRONG&#8230;..another non thinking comment without any research. Ther is no longer any corporation in America that is ethical when it comes to their bottom line. FPL rapes its customers does $300/ month sound cheap to you? single family home A/C set at 85 degrees on hottest days otherwise off. all lights off and three people living in house.</p>
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		By: Nonya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nonya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 12:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135382&quot;&gt;Snidely Whiplash&lt;/a&gt;.

Your sooo kind to care for black people. We jus love y&#039;all folks for your protectin us from ourselves. You poor undererpresented holders of power in in every faction of government and corporations around the world. Bless your heart. By the way a  true black elite in this country doesnt exist. They are usually white men with black skin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135382">Snidely Whiplash</a>.</p>
<p>Your sooo kind to care for black people. We jus love y&#8217;all folks for your protectin us from ourselves. You poor undererpresented holders of power in in every faction of government and corporations around the world. Bless your heart. By the way a  true black elite in this country doesnt exist. They are usually white men with black skin</p>
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		By: Phil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Show me a new study with current dollars and then let&#039;s prioritize. We can&#039;t do all corridors, but we can do them one by one.  We need a legitimate study and to develop a plan. It may take 20 years, just like other big public works projects. Coordinate with road projects. Hurricanes aren&#039;t going away, and the population will only keep growing. So putting our head in the sand isn&#039;t the solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me a new study with current dollars and then let&#8217;s prioritize. We can&#8217;t do all corridors, but we can do them one by one.  We need a legitimate study and to develop a plan. It may take 20 years, just like other big public works projects. Coordinate with road projects. Hurricanes aren&#8217;t going away, and the population will only keep growing. So putting our head in the sand isn&#8217;t the solution.</p>
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		By: Arthur Kirby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Kirby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Preston Scott,

I openly challenge your assertions regarding the City of Tallahassee, community owned, A+ bond rated utility. It absolutely *IS* a TAXING *REPLACEMENT* mechanism for the City. It keeps  City property tax payer rates low, THANK GOD! 

&quot;It hides wasteful programs, hires, and practices...&quot; What are they? Who are they? And exactly how are they hidden when every dollar, every hiring and every policy &#038; practice is open to be found, scrutinized and criticized FOR THE ASKING?!  I adamently suggest it is a direct result of our failed free press who no longer thinks ferreting out truth or corruption is profitable. (Thank a former elected sheriff and a car dealership owner or two for that one) 

&quot;... funneling twenty five million (give or take) to the general fund each year.&quot;   YES! THANK GOD FOR IT!   LET&#039;S HAVE MORE OF IT!  AND THIS IS A REPUBLICAN SAYING THIS! 

I want to challenge the notion that all government is bad and / or corrupt. It&#039;s not. It&#039;s is the people who suggest a successful government means there is an entitlement to funds commiserate to *corporate* or *private sector* success.

The two greatest challenges to Leon County / City of Tallahassee tax base are history and geography. Bill Montford is responsible for enlightening me to this. Consider this. Approximately 30% of ALL the land in Leon County supports 100% of the County&#039;s need. Leon County and Florida&#039;s Capital City, Tallahassee is unique from every other County or City in the State. We are one of a kind! Being one of a kind means unique, &quot;non-conventional&quot; solution are required. (necessity is the mother of invention, and mama is taking good care of it&#039;s own!) What do I mean? Here goes... 

Of all the land in Leon County, so much of it is untaxable by customary millage. Try seeing this visually as I describe it. Right off the top, remove about a 1/3rd of the land mass to Federal National forest and State forest land. Now, subtract all Federal, State and local government properties, office complexes, schools, colleges &#038; universities, etc., etc. Ready to remove about another 20%?   So...some quick math... 33% + 20% = 53% right there. 

Now... There is another element to Leon County that makes us even more unique. That&#039;s our Plantations (Phipps, Welaunee, Chemonie, Red Hills, Moore, Turner, etc.) and agricultural preservation districts (Tall Timbers, Southwood, St. Joe, etc.). These massive parcels of acreage are not, and cannot be taxed the same way other residential properties are assessed. All of this accounts for 20+%. Some supportive taxes are collected, but not at the scale most residents pay. 

Why is this important and how does this relate to Tallahassee&#039;s municipality owned utility? The answer is simple. It&#039;s actually conservative and dare I say, Republican?! The founding fathers understood, in order to take care of your people / family and not tax them to death, you leverage the resources you have and you sell something. In Tallahassee&#039;s case, that&#039;s electricity. And the City of Tallahassee does it very, VERY well.

Why is this important to those who live outside the City? Those who live outside the City limits depend on the urban core and infrastructure for *survival*. Case in point. Sewage contamination in Killearn Lakes. Blown industrial sewer lines across Capital Circle in 3 different places. Care to guess what would happen to commerce if Cap. Circle had to be shut down?

Why is it important to City and County residents? Because our population shifts so significantly. Football games, college terms, legislative sessions, hurricanes, etc. Literally millions of people depend on infrastructure and services and don&#039;t pay taxes for it (except maybe gasoline tax and possibly some bed tax). Everybody who lives here, works here, plays here, goes to school here, visits here, commutes, or passes through pretty much flips a light switch. That means all the schools, all the students, all the government offices, all the hotels via their guests, AL of the lobbyist&#039;s and legislators... Pay their light bill.

Preston, you talk like the Tallahassee City Utility is this demon bastard spawn. I rebut by saying utility service is the swan laying nothing but 24kt eggs. The hunter in the woods is Florida Power and Light. They have paid Rick Scott millions to bring them into the woods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Preston Scott,</p>
<p>I openly challenge your assertions regarding the City of Tallahassee, community owned, A+ bond rated utility. It absolutely *IS* a TAXING *REPLACEMENT* mechanism for the City. It keeps  City property tax payer rates low, THANK GOD! </p>
<p>&#8220;It hides wasteful programs, hires, and practices&#8230;&#8221; What are they? Who are they? And exactly how are they hidden when every dollar, every hiring and every policy &amp; practice is open to be found, scrutinized and criticized FOR THE ASKING?!  I adamently suggest it is a direct result of our failed free press who no longer thinks ferreting out truth or corruption is profitable. (Thank a former elected sheriff and a car dealership owner or two for that one) </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; funneling twenty five million (give or take) to the general fund each year.&#8221;   YES! THANK GOD FOR IT!   LET&#8217;S HAVE MORE OF IT!  AND THIS IS A REPUBLICAN SAYING THIS! </p>
<p>I want to challenge the notion that all government is bad and / or corrupt. It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s is the people who suggest a successful government means there is an entitlement to funds commiserate to *corporate* or *private sector* success.</p>
<p>The two greatest challenges to Leon County / City of Tallahassee tax base are history and geography. Bill Montford is responsible for enlightening me to this. Consider this. Approximately 30% of ALL the land in Leon County supports 100% of the County&#8217;s need. Leon County and Florida&#8217;s Capital City, Tallahassee is unique from every other County or City in the State. We are one of a kind! Being one of a kind means unique, &#8220;non-conventional&#8221; solution are required. (necessity is the mother of invention, and mama is taking good care of it&#8217;s own!) What do I mean? Here goes&#8230; </p>
<p>Of all the land in Leon County, so much of it is untaxable by customary millage. Try seeing this visually as I describe it. Right off the top, remove about a 1/3rd of the land mass to Federal National forest and State forest land. Now, subtract all Federal, State and local government properties, office complexes, schools, colleges &amp; universities, etc., etc. Ready to remove about another 20%?   So&#8230;some quick math&#8230; 33% + 20% = 53% right there. </p>
<p>Now&#8230; There is another element to Leon County that makes us even more unique. That&#8217;s our Plantations (Phipps, Welaunee, Chemonie, Red Hills, Moore, Turner, etc.) and agricultural preservation districts (Tall Timbers, Southwood, St. Joe, etc.). These massive parcels of acreage are not, and cannot be taxed the same way other residential properties are assessed. All of this accounts for 20+%. Some supportive taxes are collected, but not at the scale most residents pay. </p>
<p>Why is this important and how does this relate to Tallahassee&#8217;s municipality owned utility? The answer is simple. It&#8217;s actually conservative and dare I say, Republican?! The founding fathers understood, in order to take care of your people / family and not tax them to death, you leverage the resources you have and you sell something. In Tallahassee&#8217;s case, that&#8217;s electricity. And the City of Tallahassee does it very, VERY well.</p>
<p>Why is this important to those who live outside the City? Those who live outside the City limits depend on the urban core and infrastructure for *survival*. Case in point. Sewage contamination in Killearn Lakes. Blown industrial sewer lines across Capital Circle in 3 different places. Care to guess what would happen to commerce if Cap. Circle had to be shut down?</p>
<p>Why is it important to City and County residents? Because our population shifts so significantly. Football games, college terms, legislative sessions, hurricanes, etc. Literally millions of people depend on infrastructure and services and don&#8217;t pay taxes for it (except maybe gasoline tax and possibly some bed tax). Everybody who lives here, works here, plays here, goes to school here, visits here, commutes, or passes through pretty much flips a light switch. That means all the schools, all the students, all the government offices, all the hotels via their guests, AL of the lobbyist&#8217;s and legislators&#8230; Pay their light bill.</p>
<p>Preston, you talk like the Tallahassee City Utility is this demon bastard spawn. I rebut by saying utility service is the swan laying nothing but 24kt eggs. The hunter in the woods is Florida Power and Light. They have paid Rick Scott millions to bring them into the woods.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2018 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135489&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

The Dems have got to get some better bots.  They all sound the same these days. Guess the programmers got lazy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/04/deposition-provides-explanation-of-why-fpl-was-not-welcome-in-tallahassee-during-hurricane-hermine/#comment-135489">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>The Dems have got to get some better bots.  They all sound the same these days. Guess the programmers got lazy.</p>
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