Comments on: Leon County Blueprint IA Approves $115.8 Million Bond Issuance, FSU Project

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 15:13:15 +0000

Looks like recruiting is already taking a big hit. Wonder if it has anything to do with the FSU AD asking us for $20M for toilets and urinals and reducing capacity at Doak?

By: James

James — Sun, 12 Dec 2021 00:39:35 +0000

The FSU endowment is 995 million.

The FAMU endowment is 95 million.

We’re talking about how it’s okay to give FSU 20 million because we have FAM 10.

Y’all should be ashamed of yourselves.

Best wishes.

By: Mike L

Mike L — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 23:28:40 +0000

@ FBI snitch – we wish you would too.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 21:45:22 +0000

You pay for it then. The purpose of govt is not economics. It’s security and Liberty. Spend 20 mil on police salaries.

By: FBI Informant

FBI Informant — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:55:23 +0000

If not for FSU ,Tallahassee would be Bonifay with less charm..20 Million is a drop in the bucket for the economic impact that FSU provides to this city..See how many Tallahassee Businesses would fold if FSU started playing it’s Home Games in JAX or Orlando..Honestly this feels like overt racism against the white school FSU..Where we’re all the complainers like The NAACP when FAMU and TCC got their funds with nary a complaint?..I’m kind of in the middle on this issue as I don’t like the fund being tapped out for the next 7 years but I’m also annoyed these funds only seem to fund liberals and their pet causes..I’m tired of seeing Killearn and the northern burbs funding the rest of the city..Wish we would pull a Buckhead and break away from Tally and form our own city but that argument is for another day

By: Edward Lyle

Edward Lyle — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:35:13 +0000

@ Snidely… Actually, the FAMU deal was even worse. They got $10-million for general maintenance and upkeep – which was/is completely inconsistent with the purpose and intended use of the funds. My issue with the FSU $20-mil was the capping out of the city’s bond capability by ponying up the whole 20.

I don’t dismiss the economic value of the universities, but it is an inconsistent and transient economic foundation. What Tallahassee/Leon needs are full-time, well-paying, professional and career employment industries – and – a strong infusion of permanent resident retirees that spend their money locally. What hampers that goal most is a city and county government structure that is dominated by left-wing progressives and their wacked-out agenda.

By: David T. Hawkins

David T. Hawkins — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 17:52:20 +0000

@ Snidley: You said = “Why is that happening with FSU when there was hardly any opposition to TCC & FAMU getting there portion of local government support?”

When this $20 Million came it, I remember it being for needed Repairs to the Stadium. I used to drive by the Stadium every day for over 20 Years until a few years ago and I remember that place always being under construction for something. Why wasn’t those needed repairs taken care of as needed during the Construction that was already going on? My question was, why was it not done then when it could be paid for as it was being done instead of letting it all build up to now cost $20 Million Dollars in one hit?

My questions NOW are: Does it all need to be done right now or can it be done in stages so as not to totally drain that Account in one hit?

Can any of those repairs be included with other Remodels to be paid out of those Accounts?

Don’t get me wrong, I like FSU Football and I know the City and County pays for things at the Stadium, it’s just how it all plays out that bothers me. Why didn’t the City & County know about the problems before it got this bad because $20 Million Dollars worth of repairs is extremely BAD? Who does the Inspections of the Stadium and reports any issues and to who gets those reports?

By: Al

Al — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:30:10 +0000

None of the publicly funded universities and colleges should be allowed to even file an application for any money.
Famu issues are that it is an historical corrupt/ criminal organization that has been stealing tax payer funds for years to supplement grinds families and staff.
It should have been closed and disappeared 10 years ago when we had the proof.

By: Snidely Whiplash

Snidely Whiplash — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:55:34 +0000

OK I’m not totally down with all the facts, issues, rumors, feelings, ect…swirling around the TCC, FAMU, FSU financial support our local government provides to our local institutions of higher learning.

But there is no doubt our local governments and citizens benifit immensely from having the 3 universities located here. How would you feel if one of them decided to relocate to a neighboring county for tax benefits or other reasons?

So from the POV of kind of an outsider looking in on this subject there seems to be, (not from our gentle commenters here on TR ), but in the communitty as a whole a seemingly bigoted attitude on display by their non opposition to the support provided to TCC and FAMU but then when the largest university FSU’s turn comes up there is vocal opposition crawling out from under the rocks. Why is that happening with FSU when there was hardly any opposition to TCC & FAMU getting there portion of local government support? Maybe its some sort of woke leftist sentiment I just dont understand. But it feels like it may have its roots in leftist racist philosophy since leftists are the most racist opportunistic bigoted people on the planet.

By: Edward Lyle

Edward Lyle — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:21:14 +0000

@ Hope… excellent post; well said.

All it take is one person to challenge the claim that FSU brings $3-billion of economic impact annually to the city. Simply demand empirical data that proves that claim. Tax dollars should NEVER be spent on an assumption of a return on the investment.

The first question should always be, “What’s in it for the taxpayer?… followed by, “Prove it”