Learn to control your emotion, please.

Can you cite your stated findings… or are you just diverting from the facts and going with ideological and emotions-based assumptions? Oh, and save your conflation tactics of ignoring the delineation between the terms “legal” and “illegal” immigration. Your Alinsky Semantics approach is tired.

Again, take your time, we’ll wait.

It’s only against their will if they want to attend school. And we’ve literally had vaccine mandates for decades. What about the government forcing people to not have leaded paint though? Shouldn’t that be a decision each person can make for themselves? Think of the cost savings!

“The immune compromised are not my problem to solve. ”

Well, at least the compassion free reality of conservatism gets it’s time in the sun. “If it isn’t me, it isn’t my problem” The core of conservative thought. But is it the government’s responsibility to care for the more vulnerable among us? This is probably the biggest divide between me and people who keep on carrying water for a guy named 59239 times in the Epstein files.

“I’m not in favor of controlling people through violence (all government coercion is violence as the state has a monopoly on legal violence with armed police) to get my way. “‘

But you are in favor of maybe giving an immune compromised person measles. Got it. There are bunches of places without functioning governments. Try one out.

“Nobody wants to drive around here like we’re in India. ”

Check out the mind police over here. I might want to drive around here like we are in India, have you considered that?

“Laws and rules about behavior are not the same as the government violating bodily autonomy”

So naturally you support a women’s right to choose to have a pregnancy, or a person to get gender affirming care, or gay people to get married, right? Right.

And, this is about behavior and we set rules for it all the time!

Want to attend school? Get these vaccines.
Want to walk into a store? Wear shoes.
Want to fly on a plane? Don’t smoke.

“If you can’t convince people to agree with you by making a good argument, insulting them is the best way to make sure you stand alone. ”

I don’t stand alone though. Nearly everyone thinks this is a terrible idea.

“You can either understand this, or choose to remain insufferable and easily dismissed.”

Conservatives deserve to be trolled because their ideas are bad, they generally don’t care about other people (i.e., ‘the immune compromised aren’t my problem’), and they are actively supporting a guy who is murdering the economy with retarded tariffs, on top of being a guy accused of rape by three women (including his wife!), accused of sexual assault by dozens of women, and who allocated a thousdand FBI agents to look for his name in the Epstein files. On top of all of that, they seem to be pro-infectious disease as function of ‘my freedumbs’. They deserve to feel bad because they are bad people.

A government forcing a populace to undergo medical procedures against their will is authoritarian. Making persuasive arguments to convince people to voluntarily undergo those procedures is freedom. It’s really that simple.

The immune compromised are not my problem to solve. I’m not in favor of controlling people through violence (all government coercion is violence as the state has a monopoly on legal violence with armed police) to get my way. This does not describe freakin’ stop signs. Nobody wants to drive around here like we’re in India. Laws and rules about behavior are not the same as the government violating bodily autonomy. Please do reconsider your rhetoric.

If you can’t convince people to agree with you by making a good argument, insulting them is the best way to make sure you stand alone. You can either understand this, or choose to remain insufferable and easily dismissed.

“You know you’ve won the discussion when your opponent starts with the name-calling. Sorry DeepStateProvocateur.”

If someone wanted to argue that the weather was controlled by a big guy throwing a hammer around, there just isn’t a good way to approach a rational discussion about it. I’m not allowed to call that person stupid as a starting point? Why not? That person is stupid. Anyone who doesn’t think herd immunity is real is stupid. Anyone who doesn’t think immune compromised people will die when herd immunity breaks down is stupid. What’s the harm in saying so out loud? Jesus I didn’t think conservatives were triggered so easily, such fragile little snowflakes, and yet here we are.

*These proposal are flat out dangerous*. They are going to get someone killed who didn’t need to die from measles just because they happen to be immune compromised. If people don’t like being called bad people, ignorant people for championing something like that, I don’t really care. Get thicker skin.

“When one’s argument consists of ad hominem barbs and weak repartee, there is no meaningful dialogue. Stop it!”

Why? There is not a meaningful argument to be had about vaccine efficacy. They are the single greatest medical invention of all time and only behind water filtration as a lifesaving invention. Iron lungs were real. Congenital rubella was real. Small pox was real. Immune compromised people are real. Pandering to morons or saying things like ‘there is a growing debate’ is a bad thing for our society and I won’t pretend that it isn’t because a very vocal segment of the population doesn’t like being called stupid despite not believing in germ theory.

I mean, you’re clutching your pearls over how awful ad-hominem barbs, but have you given any thought toward how weak the ‘vaccine mandates are bad’ argument is from a scientific or public health perspective?

I mean, do you think a proposal to bring back leaded gasoline under the guise of consumer freedom wouldn’t deserve scorn just cause it would be too offensive to the people who liked the idea?

@Edward Lyle –

“Can you tell us – with your infinite wisdom of course. . . . ”

I don’t know that information, but I *do know* that to attend school, any of those children had to get vaccinated. What I also know is that Meatball Ron, in all of his ‘infinite wisdom’ wants to change that. Why? Is he pro-polio? Is he taking campaign contributions from Big Measles? It’s a dumb idea to pander to even dumber people. Full stop.

Why pivot to immigration? You don’t like immigrants? I’m shocked. But also, who cares?
What does that have to do with a massively uninformed and ignorant take on science though? You think immigrants should be vaccinated? Me too! I think that because I think every human has value and should be protected against disease. What’s your rationale?

Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, Pneumococcal, Polio, COVID-19, MMR, Influenza, Chickenpox, Hepatitis A, RSV antibody, and Pneumococcal.

Do take your time to research this important factor guiding your rant… we’ll wait.