September 20: Tracking Florida COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Fatalities

September 20: Tracking Florida COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and  Fatalities

NOTE 9/1: DeSantis was informed late Monday that nearly 75,000 results of Quest testing data dating as far back as April would be ingested into the state’s COVID-19 data for Tuesday’s update. Source: Orlando Sentinel.

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Positive Cases

The chart below tracks the daily positive cases and provides a 7-day average trend line based on cases reported by the Florida Department of Health (DOH) through September 20th.

Hospitalizations

The chart below tracks the daily hospitalizations and provides a 7-day average trend line based on cases reported by the Florida Department of Health (DOH) through September 20th.

Deaths

The chart below tracks the daily reported deaths and provides a 7-day average trend line based on cases reported by the Florida Department of Health (DOH) through September 20th.

913 Responses to "September 20: Tracking Florida COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Fatalities"

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    Nancy Horanzy   September 20, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Thank you Aaron for clarifying that. Just like the stats for South Dakota. High positivity rate per John Hopkins, but they are only doing about 2K tests a day. Healthy people don’t get tested. I am a Florida resident and very happy with our diminishing numbers especially in light of the fact that we don’t have the Tri-State (CT, NY, MA, NJ) overreach travel restrictions and a growing population.

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    Nate   September 17, 2020 at 11:17 am

    Why do the deaths vary greatly from the DOH dashboard?
    https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86

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      Richard   September 17, 2020 at 3:01 pm

      The deaths here are the “reported on” dates. So deaths matching a July death cert may be counted here in Sept. (Weekends generally have a low total.) The DOH dashboard is dynamic and changes the previous July date with additional deaths reported later.

      The FAU site Dave links to below is excellent with there county by county breakdowns and FL data. They show how each days reported deaths breakdown and add them accordingly.

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        Nate   September 18, 2020 at 11:26 am

        Thanks for explanation! Looking into FAU site now.

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          Richard   September 19, 2020 at 10:51 am

          No problem. I apologize for all the typos. I’m guessing I meant “the” county not “there” or at least “their” and “day’s” not “days.” Garbage writing.

          Hope everyone is doing well and feeling more and more optimistic in FL. We own in NYC but have moved out.

          This site has been a great asset along with the FAU tracker and is very much appreciated.

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      Elliott   September 17, 2020 at 3:27 pm

      I asked the same question a month or so ago and didn’t get a good answer. The daily deaths here are consistently 10-fold higher than reported on the state’s dashboard. Where does Tallahassee, Floridahasseereports get their numbers?

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      Dave   September 18, 2020 at 5:11 am

      The FAU website did a write up on Aug 3 on how/why the confusion on tracking reported deaths (as is done on this site) and tracking of deaths by date of death (as shown on the Fl DOH dashboard site). If you want more detail see the write up below.

      The write-up is here https://business.fau.edu/covidtracker/data/selected-charts/covid19-florida-deaths-explainer.php

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        Nate   September 18, 2020 at 11:27 am

        Thanks Dave, going to look at this now!

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    Dave   September 16, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    Phil, Jon
    Florida Atlantic University is tracking some of the things you are looking for.
    It contains tracking on state deaths by date of death and positivity tracking for the state as well as several selected countys. It appears to be taken from the same data sets as FDOH and is published daily.
    https://business.fau.edu/covidtracker/data/florida-data/

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      Jon   September 18, 2020 at 10:21 pm

      Nice. Lots of good charts there.

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    Phil   September 15, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    Were you all going to add a graph on the positivity rate over time?

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    Jon   September 15, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    How about changing the death chart to the florida one which reflects date of death instead?

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    I Hate SPAM   September 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    Who is publishing comparable charts with Flu data instead?

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    Dean   September 13, 2020 at 9:26 am

    Florida has posted a 7 day rolling average of less than 10% for some time.
    Can someone please tell me where Johns Hopkins gets their numbers from.
    There are about 35 states that must quarantine when visiting Ct.
    Someone is not looking at the numbers the same way.
    I would love to visit my grandkids without having to quarantine,

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      Terry   September 13, 2020 at 12:24 pm

      The lovely Governor of Connecticut is in lockstep with his Tri-State cohorts. They know they all look really bad with 3 out of the top 4 States for deaths/per million rate for the Country, and it’s not even close. Besides the rolling average you mention, they also say the test rate has to be less than 10 per 100,000 residents – what???? I don’t think Connecticut would even meet their own criteria. Unfortunately I don’t think you’ll be able to visit your grandkids until after the election.

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        Pitt Warner   September 14, 2020 at 5:19 pm

        I have a friend in Winter Park who has a freshman entering a university in the midwest this fall. Student and anybody helping to move in on opening day has to quarantine for 14 days in that particular state before they will be allowed on campus for move in. The roommate is from CT and has no quarantine requirement. Florida is one of 7 states the university requires for student/parent quarantine. Connecticut? Really?

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          Terry   September 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm

          Which University in the Midwest has such a phobia of Florida? I have my suspicions but wanted to confirm so I don’t send my rising High School Senior daughter there. The fact that Connecticut is OK is laughable at best. The only logical explanation is that most accept the fact that everyone in NY, NY, and Conn had the virus back in March/April/May, to the tune of millions, it’s just that you couldn’t test all the people who weren’t showing symptoms back then.

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            Tara   September 16, 2020 at 7:11 am

            As of last week, NYC was still a ghost town. What a shame. And Florida is the new “state to hate” by those who hate Trump. Go figure. I have younger relatives in the Northeast and they (kiddingly?) mock Florida. I tell them their bias is not based on knowledge, but that doesn’t matter to the young ‘uns; they’re having too much fun mocking. 🙂

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            Pitt Warner   September 16, 2020 at 11:16 am

            Miami of Ohio

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      Stu Williams   September 13, 2020 at 2:23 pm

      Quest is no longer reporting (positive or negative cases) to the state since Sept 1. They are the largestest testing lab in the state (if you include all locations of quest lab)… so of the 6.5 Million tests performed by Sept 1. 1 Million of those were by Quest. As of Sept 2 or Sept 1 these are no longer being counted because they were slow to report to the state I think.

      I am not sure, but maybe that could account for the difference in numbers including percent positive.

      This would be the equivalent of WDW Magic Kingdom not reporting people entering the park if they got to the park via Bus or Monorail or Boat and only included those who drove their own vehicles.

      Hospitalizations and deaths are a better predictor IMHO. Deaths are bad, very bad. Hospitalizations are better for September – 2438 since Sept 1. Deaths reported (most have occured in August) are 1,234. 22k new cases reported to the state excluding Quest.

      You can’t look at the aggregate numbers as cumulative doesn’t make sense for trend analysis. The best thing to look at are deaths and excess mortality – extra deaths as this number is typically very stable year to year, its uncanny.

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        Terry   September 13, 2020 at 5:48 pm

        Florida has the third largest population in the US, and either the first or second largest amount of elderly, yet currently sits at 17th in terms of deaths/million in the US. Be interested to see how many people end up dying from undiagnosed cancer or high blood pressure because they were too freaked out to go get a check up. Those will be some excess deaths, along with more suicides of course.

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        Aaron   September 14, 2020 at 12:52 pm

        That is not entirely accurate. The State of Florida severed ties with Quest on September 1st due to the their testing data backlog drop but that does not mean that Quest is no longer supplying their test data to the State. The majority of tests that they administer are done directly for physicians or for hospitals. All of those tests are still being added to the database. The only major difference when the state dropped Quest was the closing of a couple of state run testing sites that were contracted with Quest.

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      Aaron   September 14, 2020 at 1:04 pm

      John Hopkins has been at the forefront of the mis-information campaign unfortunately. One of their most questionable moves is that all of their %positive rates are not per unique individual. So with their data if the same person tests positive 10 days in a row, they are presented as a positive test 10 times. FDOH and most reputable sources all agree that this is not the correct way to report %positivity as it does not properly distinguish whether you are having community spread or if it is just the same people who are already sick. FDOH only includes positive tests if it is the 1st time the person has tested positive.

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        urban legend   September 17, 2020 at 2:32 pm

        But Johns Hopkins does it the same for all the states, and Florida shows up as one of the worst states — not only for positivity rates, but also for testing (which has dropped in Florida by over two-thirds ever since Trump whined about too much testing discovering too many cases).

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          Aaron   September 17, 2020 at 10:49 pm

          Nice try troll but not true at all, please stick to facts. https://business.fau.edu/covidtracker/data/florida-data/

          Scroll down to Florida Covid Case Testing Results. It is true that we are administering less tests now but it is not anywhere near 2/3 less. The reason we are doing less testing however has nothing to do with Trump. Notice the massive drop in positivity rate that accompanies the lack of testing. More people get tested when they are sick, more people were sick in July, because that was absolutely the peak of Covid in Florida. This is not a conspiracy theory and it is not about your politics.

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            Richard   September 19, 2020 at 2:14 pm

            Absolutely agree with Aaron here. There has not been any dramatic drop in testing that hasn’t corresponded to the massive drop in positive percentage.

            Florida tested over 70,000 people each of the past 3 days. They haven’t done that done that since late July. The July 3 days resulted in an average of over 9,500 positives per day. Florida’s last 3 days have resulted in just under 3,400 per day.

            If you don’t believe the testing, just look at the numbers that matter – hospitals and deaths. Hospital numbers don’t have the lag time issues compared to fatality numbers.

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      Greg   September 17, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      Florida DOH does not use standard measurements while other states do. Very simple. FL DOH uses each negative – ON THE SAME PERSON – as a denominator.
      ONLY use JHU numbers – Florida usually does not publish them but others do.
      My county in MA (I live in FL 1/2 the year) is currently .12% – or 100X lower than Florida.

      If you are coming from FL – at 100X or 50X the rate where your family is, wouldn’t it make sense that you provide the biggest danger?

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    Jim C   September 10, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    What is going on with fatalities these last two days?

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      Aaron   September 10, 2020 at 9:19 pm

      There is a major backlog in the issuing of death certificates for Covid-19 deaths that is slowly being eased. A lot of these deaths being recorded now are from mid to late August. There has always been a known delay in the reporting and it was assumed to be 5-10 days on average but unfortunately there was a bigger backlog then known. This is why Florida a few weeks back switched so that Doctors could state Covid-19 as the cause of death and not every case had to go to the medical examiner.

      I can’t find the exact article but there was an estimated backlog of about 1800 deaths that were waiting for medical examiners to give the final say on about two weeks ago when the new law went into effect (most would be suspected Covid deaths).

      Here is an article that details a little bit about the switch in reporting and mentions 650 in the backlog just for Miami-Dade (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-medical-examiners-20200826-p4hnz3h3vrafllnpf3fhbix2de-story.html)

      In addition to that you also had the major delay from people taking time off over Labor day. Expect to see deaths not level out as quickly as the cases and hospitalizations as that backlog of deaths will be slowly reported over the next few weeks.

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        Tracy   September 11, 2020 at 12:33 pm

        I’m aware of the backlog and thank you for the additional article updating those details, BUT…it’s my understanding that once the deaths are counted, they’re attributed to the date of death, not the date the death was verified/counted. That is why we see the numbers going up from 2+ weeks ago on many platforms. Unless I’m incorrect about that, the delay should not be reflected on the present counts.

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          Tara   September 12, 2020 at 9:10 am

          The deaths are reflected by date of death on the Florida Covid dashboard, but on this site, as well as many others, it is by the day the death is reported.

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        Jon   September 13, 2020 at 8:29 am

        Right if you look at the state report, its much better.

        http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

        Page 6 shows deaths by date of death, and its more like 50 deaths per day on average.

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      Ed   September 11, 2020 at 11:18 am

      If you look at the death curve above, you will notice a 7 day pattern from peak to peak. People don’t die on a weekly pattern but the bureaucrats don’t work weekends and holidays so not as many deaths are recorded then. I can tell you from personal experience that new admissions to the hospital for Covid are way down over what they were one month ago, and the patients that do come in are not as sick and are doing better than they were a few weeks ago.

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        Terry   September 11, 2020 at 1:53 pm

        A lot of states have already started changing the way they report cases and more importantly, deaths, because almost everything is being attributed to COVID-19 now. Arizona some time back, and Massachusetts is the latest. In the FDOH report today, there were 103 of these latest deaths in the 85+ category, and another 35 in the 75-84 age range. This is why the CDC will need to go back and do an age adjustment for all these deaths being coded as COVID-19 given that the average life expectancy for an American is 78 and the average age of death from COVID-19 is ironically enough, 78. It’s actually 79 in Florida. So it begs the question was COVID-19 really the culprit.

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          Ed   September 12, 2020 at 12:09 pm

          I think Covid was really the culprit in the vast majority of cases. For someone to have died and incidentally had Covid, like in a car wreck or died of a heart attack, that’s a tiny percentage of cases. Covid is getting a lot better in our area, but I don’t think we should minimize how bad it was. It was bad. Really bad.

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            Terry   September 13, 2020 at 10:13 am

            Agreed for the most part, but it’s been very clear for many months now who was at the most risk and DeSantis got it right from Day 1, unlike Cuomo and Murphy. We also know COVID-19 is impacting the minority populations at a 4x-5x higher rate on average across all age groups, and that makes up a big portion of South Florida, particularly Miami-Dade. The same thing is being seen in other major Metro areas across the Country given the poor existing health of these groups and lack of proactive medical care. To make matters worse, Florida is very low in terms of elderly populations that live in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities. A lot of these folks are living in multi-generational households and DeSantis can’t protect them in that setting.

            It’s terrible that so many had to die, but I think it’s been contained as best as possible and we’re seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I look at countries like India where they’ve had multiple, strict lockdowns, and beat people in the streets with sticks for not wearing masks. Has it really helped? Not really, they are having the most cases by day, because they are testing more, but also the most deaths per day, which is the only metric that really counts at the end of the day. The virus eventually just has to make its way through the population, you can’t hide from it and hope it just goes away.

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            Kirk   September 15, 2020 at 1:01 pm

            Yeah, and in fact, it’s quite the opposite. Florida wasn’t counting comorbidities and was actively trying to suppress numbers, so if, for example, someone had both a cold and COVID 19, then it would be recorded as a death from the Common Cold. Is it really a coincidence that pneumonia deaths are up several hundred percent over last year in Florida and Texas? Plus, Florida is only counting resident deaths, so all of the snowbirds and tourists aren’t counted even though they probably make up about a third of all of the actual cases and deaths in the state.

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          L.I.D.   September 13, 2020 at 10:01 pm

          Are you that stupid…. people are dying from Covid-19… what world ?
          Are you living in I guess it’s trump world !

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    Terry   September 10, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    Still trying to figure out how we went from:

    – flatten the curve (check)
    – prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed (check)
    – reduce the positivity rate (check)

    to:

    – we can’t have one positive case for even perfectly healthy people, in any school or business
    – we need a vaccine

    to:

    – we don’t want a vaccine before the election because obviously it won’t be safe

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      Pitt Warner   September 10, 2020 at 2:17 pm

      Thank you. I get so bogged down in the day to day stuff, I forget to reflect. Good job!

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      Robert   September 10, 2020 at 3:35 pm

      Actually it sounds like you understand perfectly.

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      Traci   September 11, 2020 at 3:35 pm

      Great synopsis!

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    Dan   September 8, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    Could it be that hospitals are increasing the threshold for admitting patients at both ends (not sick enough, and too sick to help)? For example, at some point, Sweden was limiting access to hospitalization for patients that were over a certain age and in a really bad condition.

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      Ken   September 8, 2020 at 6:20 pm

      We are not socialist yet, and we have the power to vote wisely to ensure we don’t go there! Yes, socialist states limit healthcare but here we pay hospitals more for Covid cases, so no limiting rather likely counting everyone possible for more dollars?
      Be happy numbers are improving, daily cases coming down, hospitalizations coming down, deaths coming down, and one of the top five healthiest economies in the country. Thank god for good leadership

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        Lona   September 10, 2020 at 1:41 pm

        Ken,You are 100% wrong about any place in the USA being in the top 5 healthiest economies.We are number 1 in Obesity,Gun deaths and More people in prison than any other country.Also Number 1 in COVID cases and deaths of any developed country in the whole world.Facts matter.

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          Kevin   September 10, 2020 at 5:26 pm

          Better “facts matter” is to focus on COVID deaths PER POPULATION and there is a whole list of developed countries with higher death rates than US.

          Confirmed deaths (absolute) Daily increase (# deaths)¹ Population (in millions) Deaths per million
          Peru 30,123 147 31.99 941.66
          Belgium 9,917 5 11.42 868.23
          Spain 29,628 34 46.72 634.11
          Bolivia 7,146 49 11.35 629.43
          Ecuador 10,701 74 17.08 626.36
          United Kingdom² 41,594 8 66.49 625.58
          Chile 11,702 20 18.73 624.8
          Brazil 128,539 1,075 209.47 613.64
          Italy 35,577 14 60.43 588.72
          USA² 190,332 1,174 327.17 581.76

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            Donna   September 10, 2020 at 6:43 pm

            Us and Brazil the only country losing over 1000 people a DAY!! Everyone else NOW has it under control!!!

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        Kirk   September 15, 2020 at 1:12 pm

        You do realize that we ration healthcare in the US too, we just do it by whether or not the person has enough money to pay for it, rather than whether or not that care will do the greatest good for society. And in fact, far more people are denied healthcare in the US than in countries with universal healthcare because there is nearly always a surplus of hospital beds, so there’s no need to worry about rationing, unless you can’t afford treatment. 29% of Americans are on Medicaid or have no insurance at all, meaning that at pretty much any private hospital, which is about 80% of hospitals in the US, they’d be turned away. And it’s not like American healthcare is any better for it. Just like in pretty much every other metric, we rank at pretty much the bottom in terms of quality of healthcare compared to other OECD countries.

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      Kevin Pack   September 8, 2020 at 6:53 pm

      That Sweden comment is just not true. They never came anywhere near exhausting their hospital and ICU capacity. They also achieved that while never shutting down for even a day.

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        Robert   September 9, 2020 at 11:05 am

        Apparently Sweden turned away older people to keep capacity open for an expected capacity-challenging peak. When it arrived, the peak was much lower than expected and they unfortunately lost some older folks that they didn’t need to lose.

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      Greg   September 17, 2020 at 1:19 pm

      Florida ranks #45 or so in health care access.
      IMHE predicts deaths in FL will stay high (100-200) pretty much as far out as we can look – 26K plus by Jan.
      Deaths from LTC and Nursing now can happen with no hospitalization- many have covered to “covid” centers and they have Hospice in-house.
      So you are correct that Hospitalizations do not tell us everything. But deaths do tell us a little and Florida is 13% plus positive – 10X or so that of states that care about their residents.

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    Jay   September 7, 2020 at 12:06 pm

    It could be that there are very few new hospitalizations and that almost of the reduction in the hospitalization numbers are coming from hospital patient deaths. Does anyone have any idea where to get a number for new patients being hospitalized each day. It seems to be coming to a point where all the reduction in hospitalizations is coming from deaths (rather than recoveries)

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      Terry   September 8, 2020 at 8:56 am

      Per the FDOH dashboard there have been a total of 40083 hospitalizations for COVID-like symptoms for FL residents and a total of 11871 Florida deaths due to COVID complications since the tracking started. So for sure the majority of hospitalizations have resulted in discharge/recovery. Unlike Saint Cuomo and New York, Florida is counting people that died in the Nursing Homes as part of the COVID-19 death count, so the percentage of people getting discharged from the hospital is even higher.

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    Traci Licht   September 7, 2020 at 9:53 am

    Any chance you could add a positivity % graph to this daily update?

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      Tenley Hough   September 7, 2020 at 5:16 pm

      Yes! This would be great

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          Traci   September 11, 2020 at 3:49 pm

          Why does the % positivity rate between the John Hopkins link and the frog link look so different?

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            Traci   September 11, 2020 at 3:49 pm

            FDOH not frog

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            Greg   September 17, 2020 at 1:23 pm

            FL DOH uses numbers they made up – seriously, They don’t use standardized disease positivity numbers. The reason is obvious – to fool you.
            Example:
            If we take 20 people (say many of them work in LTC or are athletes, etc.) and test them once a week for a month – that’s 80 tests.
            If 8 of them show up positive at the end of the month Florida would call that 10% positivity.
            Johns Hopkins and the entire rest of the world cold call that 8 out of 20 – or 40% positivity.
            Don’t be fooled. Don’t read Fl DOH reports.

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    Swarm6   September 3, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Does anyone know where to find this type of presentation for Leon County?

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    Robert   September 2, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    This reporting, surprisingly from NYT, challenges the mainstream media narrative:

    “The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

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      Ed   September 4, 2020 at 10:07 am

      I don’t know; it’s obvious that a majority of people don’t get very sick from Covid, still plenty do and it’s not 100% predictable who those people are going to be in advance. It looks like Florida had a bit of an uptick in cases and percentage of tests positive that started 8/31. What really matters, however, are hospitalizations which for now are in a downtrend. Look out for those numbers around Sept. 9. If they don’t bump very much we’re good. This is probably the first signal from schools opening. About 34% of Floridians should have or have had antibodies at this point. Another 34% should have specific T cell immunity to SARS CoV2.

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      WC   September 11, 2020 at 7:41 am

      Not really surprising at all. The original criticism was that we were not testing enough. Now that we are testing anyone who might possibly be willing to submit to a test we have to shift the argument to how it isn’t the “right” test.

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    Terry   September 2, 2020 at 10:48 am

    Gotta love the FDOH. Miami-Dade decides to re-open indoor dining this week and then magically FDOH hoards the death numbers and report 100 alone in Miami-Dade yesterday. If you look at the line data, you will see some of these were from more than 2 months back. Miami-Dade is a mess, no doubt, due to all the multi-generation families living together in close quarters, but this is the first time I can remember such a large disparity between the counties. The next highest County was Palm Beach with 9 and after that it was 5. Maybe Miami-Dade has a more deadly strain all of a sudden.

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      Aaron   September 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      I think you are attacking the wrong agency here. The FDOH only reports the numbers as they get them, the delay in the reporting happens at the county medical examiner level. This is not the first time that this happened either. I know at least one other example which is August 10th there were 91 total and 35 were reported from Manatee county (which is approximately 15% of the manatee county total all time). There are several reasons this can occur but I’m not sure any of them are truly nefarious. This is from the incident in Manatee:

      Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Russell Vega.

      “We didn’t suddenly have 35 deaths in one day but we did have a lot of deaths last weekend,” Vega said. “I was not as diligent as I could have or should have been in reporting those.”

      Regardless of the numbers it is time for everything to open and life must be started to move forward. We have a very small window where we can save our economy and country (not politically) but we must get moving forward now and not delay.

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        Terry   September 3, 2020 at 11:20 am

        Could be, timing is just very suspicious. More and more reports coming out every day about how the death and case numbers are severely skewed. Never in my life have I seen such a strong push by so many people to attribute everything to COVID-19. It will be interesting to see when the CDC goes back and does the numbers a year or two from now and does the age adjustment to get the true death rate from COVID-19. That’s assuming of course the deaths were even labeled correctly to begin with. For sure when the average life expectancy of an American is 78.4 years, and the average age of death from COVID-19 is 78 (79 in Florida currently), you have to wonder if COVID-19 was really the main culprit.

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          david   September 3, 2020 at 4:12 pm

          This is definitely a concern. Perhaps the best, albeit imperfect way to assess the degree of accuracy of death attributed to Covid is to examine the overall death toll in the country which follows a very predictable statistical pattern. This data can be seen at https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#:~:text=Excess%20deaths%20are%20typically%20defined,in%20which%20the%20death%20occurred
          The takeway from this data is that there have been between 189,000 and 234,000 excess (abnormal) deaths in the US since March. Of course this could be attributable to other causes then Covid. But an objective opinion would probably conclude that the current death toll of 186,000 is fairly conservative. It is extremely likely that the number is somewhat higher.

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            Terry   September 4, 2020 at 2:42 pm

            Some of these excess deaths can be attributed to people not getting regular check ups and keeping high blood pressure and pre-diabetes conditions in check. Worse yet, diagnosis of cancer is WAY down, like 40% per some studies. None of these medical conditions magically disappeared in 2020. My wife is a nurse and they had a patient the other day that needed a heart procedure but the OR wouldn’t take him until he had a negative COVID-19 test. Guess what, he ended up dying of a massive heart attack. Mark my words, his death will be counted as a COVID-related death. The media has made people scared to go to the doctor for any reason now and we know suicides and overdoses are also up.

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        Greg   September 17, 2020 at 1:29 pm

        Not to say minds can be changed, but FL is largely “open” and when the rest of the country and world comes down this winter and some get infected, that is going to make certain it takes that many more years for “the economy” to recover.
        If it comes to it, other states will crack down hard on FL infected people coming back.

        This will not be a good thing for Florida reputation.

        As far as “the economy” – assuming you can still learn things, here is something to chew on. CT, with a .5% positivity rate, was recently measured at 86% of their pre-pandemic level. That would be OVER 60,000 per capita.

        FL economy, assuming it was 90% open (might be) – would be less than 40K per person. If it was FULLY open (impossible because people from elsewhere simply aren’t going to come to the same degree), it would be 44K per person.

        So which would you choose? Opening colleges and schools safely (they are in CT) and 60K per person, or the “great economy” in Florida at 40K per person? Think carefully now.

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    BustedUpGrunt   August 30, 2020 at 11:27 am

    CDC weekly national summaries include deaths from Pneumonia, Influenza, and Covid (PIC) in their overall Mortality Rates. CDC states PIC mortality rate for latest week #34 is 7.9%.
    Does Florida DOH also include Pneumonia and Influenza in these overall FL state death counts?

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    the day is mine Trebek   August 28, 2020 at 2:08 pm

    today: missing hospitalizations chart, have deaths chart twice

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      Staff   August 28, 2020 at 3:31 pm

      Got it. Thanks.

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    Russell P Davignon MD   August 28, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    Wrong Hosptilzation Graph on 8/28 Bring back old hospital graph with trend line and yes latest post FIRST!

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      Charley   August 30, 2020 at 6:03 pm

      the department of health changed how they were reporting the numbers.

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        Michelle   September 1, 2020 at 3:45 pm

        You noticed too right ? We actually have a ton of cases, if they count the positive rate the right way. I swear they will do anything to skew the numbers to appear “safer”. I trust Rebekah Jones website it’s funny her count has been accurate the whole time. I think it’s a lie about quest, to make the miscounting appear their fault.

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          John Kaufmann   September 2, 2020 at 10:32 am

          FL state dashboard reports less cases which actually makes their fatality ratio look higher. I am not sure it really makes things appear “safer” other than a fewer less cases.

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    Susan Calkins   August 26, 2020 at 3:28 pm

    You have the easiest graphs of the virus I have found. Thank you. My only suggestion would be to put the newest replies first. Things have changed alot since April and most of the older replies aren’t that relevant now.

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    MIB   August 24, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    Oh, my, yes, turrrible turrible. 2.79% of Florida population infected, 0,048% died. 1.72% in USA confirmed infected, 0.053% have died. 9% (over 21% in NY) of those in statistical screening projects found to have antibodies. 0.307% of world population infected, 0.011% have died. Only a little over a dozen prospective vaccines in testing, over 110 pharma treatments in use. Curl up in a hidey-hole. Never mind the tornado the weather service is warning of over in Marianna this evening.

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      Terry   August 25, 2020 at 4:43 pm

      It will be interesting to see what the death rates from COVID-19 end up being after they do the age adjustment like they do for all causes of death. For sure it will be lower, potentially much lower because the average age of death from COVID-19 is 78 (79 in Florida) which just happens to be the average life expectancy of an American. Hmmm, coincidence????

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        Kevin   September 1, 2020 at 3:25 pm

        You’re wrong. Life expectancy is an average that includes many young people and children who have died of accidents, illness, and drug overdoses. If you make it to your late 70s you have on average about ten years of life left.

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        Donna   September 10, 2020 at 6:57 pm

        The key is in the Excess deaths. The man you cited who died waiting for a COVID test would not have died in any other year. Of COURSE COVID is complicit in his death!! People that stayed home afraid to go to the hospital for that pain running down their arm are COVID related deaths. It is very Clear they would not have died but for COVID- otherwise Why the HUGE increase in excess deaths?

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      David   September 2, 2020 at 6:13 am

      Your statistics are flawed and you know it. You can have a smart-assed attitude if you want; you’ll sing a different tune if you get the virus.

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    Terry   August 24, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    I keep hearing about “going to Phase 2” soon with all this positive news. However, not really sure what that means. In South Florida, we were excluded from opening stand-alone bars, but other than that, most of Phase 2 was already in place. We are already operating at 50% capacity for indoor dining, the bowling alleys were already open, and the movie theaters opened back up last Friday. Is this just about the bar service and maybe increasing capacity a bit more? Each County is already making their own decisions about in-class Public school instruction, with a heavy hand from the Teacher’s Union. The Governor has already said he wants choices offered – in-class, remote, hybrid. Broward County is imposing their own rules like restaurants closing at 10pm and the on-going mask mandate which has been in place since early May. Nothing to do with the Governor’s orders.

    If anyone knows what’s missing as part of Phase 2, can you please clarify?

    #herdimmunity

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    R.C.   August 23, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    Dear Governor, Please continue to free us more and more. Keep us old people at home and let the rest go to work to feed their families. Quarantine the sick, not the well. Open the schools. There will be many more Covid’s in this life, but life must go on.

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      Susan DiG   August 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm

      I believe that no one ever shows or states a positive spin on how people are surviving the virus. Plus, the media is purposely scaring everyone so they won’t go outside or to work or to vote and I believe that it’s political. Please report the definite trend showing that cases are trending down, as less people are sick. I’m a 71 year old woman and I’ve been following the guidelines to an extent. I have been outside with a mask on and keeping a safe distance from other individuals, since this whole thing began. I encourage other people to do the same as long as you are not immune-challenged. And, of course, stay away from anyone who shows a sign of illness. Life is too short to stay inside. Just use the precautions that have been suggested. And poor Margaret – she really ranted and raved and didn’t make much sense. Blessings to everyone.

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    jim jeffery   August 22, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    Publishing CURRENT stats for everything is the ONLY logical method of tracking Covid-19! That is why CDC is allowing cruise lines to start up in 6 weeks!

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    Ed   August 22, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    Looking good, Florida! I see your cases are down, deaths down, and hospitalizations are down. Same across the other states along the Gulf (except Alabama. I don’t know about Alabama. Well, I better not say any more), and, well with Texas, at least eastern Texas is much better too. So what did it? What brought the epidemic down? Was it a lockdown? Nope. Was the population issued N95’s? Nope. It’s the good old human immune system, I believe. Now, is there still Covid out there? Yep. Could Covid still put your sorry self 6 foot down in a hole? You bet your patouttie it can and will if you’re not careful. So be glad, but don’t let your guard down. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings, but it sure as heck looks a lot better. Good job, Floridians! Here’s hoping we see y’all on the loosing side of a football field here in the next few weeks!

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      Brian J-T   August 30, 2020 at 9:38 am

      You’re literally too stupid to insult.

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    Robert E Powers   August 22, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    Close to 600,000 cases! Governor Disastrous heck of a job

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      Aaron   August 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm

      Take your garbage and peddle it elsewhere. People come here for facts. Like the fact that the current hospitalizations today are almost exactly half what they were at the peak of ~9500 on 7/22. The hospitals did not get overwhelmed, and we managed to reach a level of herd immunity (obviously not enough to eliminate it, but enough to drastically slow it down). The governors job is not to take away my freedoms for something that really does not affect the mass majority of people. Our numbers still blow away those of NY and NJ and are right on par with states like Michigan and California. You don’t have to get a life but you no longer get to tell the rest of us we aren’t allowed ours.

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        KEN   August 22, 2020 at 2:19 pm

        Excellent response Aaron. I would bet that Mr. Powers has been getting a paycheck through this whole pandemic so opening up the economy means nothing to him. Of course, he quotes the MSM’s favorite statistic by using the meaningless cases number. That number includes many who didn’t even know they had the virus but let’s shut down the economy anyway. A better statistic to use is the deaths per million and there are 15 states worse than Florida, many by a factor of two or three.

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          Debbie   August 29, 2020 at 10:10 am

          I SO AGREE
          Have you doom and gloom complainers reallllllly thought this out, Wanting to shut down our economy. People are going to die yes, and its me thats life.

          Its not the government’s job to take care of you who choose not to work.

          If we dont let people get back to work the government wont be able to help anyone. Without the wheels of progress continuing amd people not earning money to pay taxes, government will self annihilate.

          Forgive me im sick and tired of people thinking its the governments job to help them.

          In the bible we read.
          Those who wont work and are able, dont deserve to eat. Not the exact words but close enough.

          Im not the best writer but hopefully it made some sense.

          Debbie

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            Margaret A Blustine   August 30, 2020 at 6:06 pm

            Pure de santis.15000 cases july 30 an 253 dead each day.so he and trump start just countiny hospital positive cases and deaths august 1! Leavingbout 3x more daily tests at sites and sent home sick wait 2 weeks results since trump de santis fired most private labs doing 2 results.
            So thousands weekly die AT HOME NOT COUNTED BY TRUMP DE SANTIS SINCE AUG 1 THEY ONLY COUNT HOSPITAL VIRUS DEATHS AND CASES AS DE SANTIS USES LAME EXCUSE FOR PORTION REPORTING TRUTH DAILY. Wonder whyv1000 dropped fast to 4000 3000.cheating and fake tracking methods.since aug 1. Cases realyl over 20000 daily deaths over 300 daily both rising. Lying.killing. fla worst by far if true data and increasing fasteven hospitl only dead yesterday 153 thats 1071
            A WEEK AND UNACCEPTABLE. NOTBEVEN COUNTING THOUSANDS WEEKLY SENT HOME TO DIE NOT COUNTED AS TRUMP DE SANTIS ORDERED MEDICAL EXAMINERD TO STOP PUBLIC VIRUS AT HOME REPORTS.trump de santis scam newctrack methods aug 1 on are killing ecposing milions by november all hidden.dont be fooled.understandvecsantis says on tv only track.hospitals.most die home from virus since aug 1 waitg deliberate delayed 2 wk.results dnt get dead counted per e santis trump fake new track methods as true mass murder is spiraling record highs daily. Stop being fooled.listen to new faking tracking ways.de santis and trump with new tricks to show fake declining per medl ecpertsxwi now kill on.to 30 million by.december.is mass murder for noncaring fake president to try be back kill more.becase he doesnt do anything to slow virus nor does de santis.only idiots dont listen to e santi admit since aug 1 only hosptal dsgnosis and deaths counted. Hiding 3cx both every day fooling you. Florida deadliest state record.deaths not counted total since aug 1 he admits changed trackg aug 1 to only small portion g hositals he counts says total.lies.
            Positvity rate all daily virus cas is up to 26 percent so he says stopped using it ecaue hes lying saying total cases 3000 4000 as thatsonly hospitals.not sick at home dying
            Not carrers banned from tests s now.not carriers banned from tests now ongoing exposing many millions across america infecting.killing.trump.wont count them dead as cantbget tests anymore if IF ECPosed only counts HOSPITAL DEPATHS HE SAYS. MASS MURDER TRUMP. DESANTIS CHANGES.SATANIC.DONTT BE FOOLED LIKE YOU ARE.LISTEN CHECK OUT EARLY AUG CHANGE TO JUST HOSITSLS. JUST A THIRD OF VIRUS CASES AND AS MANY THOUSANDS DAILY SENT HOME EVERY STATE WAIT DELAYED RESULTS AND DIE HOME TRUMP.STOPPED COUNTINGTHEM SINCE AUGB1
            CHART DECLINING A SCAM Of THESE murderous changes.now even more murder changes trump getscdaily tests.trump.mask mandates wh protect him.he knows.wontprotect us.never will.because hes cutting more test funding.he doesnt care abt americans.just himself and title andbeing cheap lazy murderous liar.

            SO FLORIDACWRSE DAILY.NO DECLINING.NO MASKS.MORE OPEN.E SATIS ANVRUMP

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            Pedro Dudeson   September 2, 2020 at 7:54 pm

            The young are going to do well. It is really only the old and obese and diseased that will die. At the end of the day, these are people (most, but not all, of course) that do not contribute much to the economy. They have enjoyed a good life and I bet that if you ask them, they would be happy to die so that their children can grow up in a land of abundant resources. Gov Desantis knows this.

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          David   September 2, 2020 at 6:18 am

          “there are 15 states worse than Florida….” So you get that there are 34 states *better* than Florida, right? You’re bragging about being ranked 35th in deaths per million? Wow.

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        Terry   August 22, 2020 at 2:32 pm

        # of cases is still the most meaningless thing that the sheep focus on, I guess because CNN and MSNBC preach it 24/7. It’s completely dependent upon testing and the State population. Is it a coincidence that the three most populous states have the most cases? Does anyone realize how many people in NY, NJ, and Conn actually had this thing but they couldn’t test everyone that moved back in March/April, only the sick people. Those States would be well into the millions and there are multiple antibody tests and studies to confirm that. The US has conducted over 75M tests now, no other Country is close, but we know herd immunity has occurred in a lot of Europe now. Masks are not the answer, never have been as indicated by all these States with mask mandates since the beginning of the pandemic doing worse than States who never had a mask mandate. Immunity was always the only way out as we are seeing now. Sweden looking smarter and smarter as each day goes by compared to Belgium, UK, Italy, Spain. Dems won’t be able to milk the fear all the way to Nov. 3, that’s pretty obvious now,

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      Keith   September 8, 2020 at 1:04 pm

      Whether you get virus is almost entirely up to each individual, not the politicians. The chance of you becoming affected with this virus approaches zero if you do all the things necessary to protect yourself. Blaming Desantis for the number of positive cases and deaths is analogous to blaming him for the number for automobile deaths associated with not wearing a seat belt. Resist the desire to control everyone else and take responsibility for you own actions.

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    Tara   August 18, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    Butch, I think the current number of Covid patients currently hospitalized has more meaning than the daily number hospitalized. It lets us see if we’re in danger of running out of beds, which has always been a major concern. The number of new hospitalizations each day gives no real insight.

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    Gigi   August 18, 2020 at 9:35 am

    Hi Staff,
    Comments are glitchy. Mid-May-Aug mostly missing. Used to be able to scroll down and read the newest batch. Any way to keep the newest comments on top?

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      Staff   August 18, 2020 at 10:01 am

      We are working on a software fix. We had to upgrade our site and ran into a glitch. Thanks

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    Butch   August 16, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    Thabk you Tallahasseereports.com for presenting this information every day. I wish you would use the same time scale for hospitalizations as cases and deaths….

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    wally   May 11, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    Interesting to see the ignorance & stupidity spewed out in these comments back in April. Sadly fox is still foaming at the mouth.

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    Joanna Tammaro   May 11, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    Overblown? Seriously? 4.17 MILLION cases worldwide and the US with the highest death rate at over 80,000? I’d hate to hear what you think “really serious” is. The way to get ahead of COVID-19 has been demonstrated by many other Countries… and we are not following their lead. If science, and the examples proven to work are going to be ignored, then at least mandate gloves and masks for everyone out publicly…. Regardless of whether you are being cautious or not- ASK yourself “What if I’m wrong?” If wearing protective precautionary masks etc is in fact over zealous, unnecessary who is going to be at risk or hurt because you are “wrong”.. If on the other hand you are not practicing precautionary measures?? Who could possibly be negatively impacted by your choice?

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    jim rapp   May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    We need to open up and be smart about our behavior. The lockdown slowed us down and showed us how to be safe. Now its up to us to know the risks of our behaviors and to get on with life.

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    Alexander Coughlin   May 8, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    We are Floridians. We know how ridiculous the notion is of trying to repair your home while in the midst of a tropical storm or hurricane. The pandemic is no different. If you truly want businesses to open up, we need to do a true lock-down plus a substantial increase in testing and contact tracing. The pandemic dies down from the lock-down while the testing and tracing ensures that we catch any new flare ups or importations. These things are necessary to create public confidence and allow things to reopen. What we are doing now is fixing our house while in eye of the hurricane. Beyond foolish.

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    Jon   May 8, 2020 at 8:57 am

    Why does the DOH dashboard show much lower numbers? Less than 20 deaths per day.

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    William   May 7, 2020 at 12:12 am

    This is a big RUSE. Social control and compliance test for next event.

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    News Maven   May 5, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    When you restrict the freedoms of the sick, it’s called quarantining.

    When you restrict the freedoms of the well, it’s called TYRANNY.

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      Phil A   May 6, 2020 at 12:36 am

      I didn’t know that “tyranny” is a synonym of “logical.”

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      DeepStateProvocateur   May 7, 2020 at 7:46 am

      Good point, News Maven! If anything, quarantining sick people is also Tyranny! I don’t see anything in the Constitution that says someone may have their freedoms restricted if they are sick. If I have corona virus, AIDS, Ebola, and Cat Scratch Fever, there is nothing, NOTHING, in the CONSTITUTION, that says the Government can restrict my rights to go shopping, play basketball, or goto a swing dance. It’s like these people haven’t even read the Constitution, or more likely, are in bed with Soros and other Dem-Socialists because they hate America.

      What’s more, I should be free to run red lights. They are restricting *my freedom* to get to where I need to go at the timeframe I need to get there. It’s *my* decision if I am going to endanger myself, and if someone else doesn’t want to get hit by my car, they can stay home like sheeple.

      MAGA!

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    Jon   May 5, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    Im confused how you get a 72 average new deaths today, when there has been less than 40 deaths per day according to the DOH.

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      Jon   May 5, 2020 at 2:58 pm

      Nm, the black line is the average. Charts are supposed to have a legend.

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    B.Good   May 5, 2020 at 1:05 am

    ALL of the numbers are artificially low. If only people who have symptoms get tested then it is not a random sample so it does not accurately express what the infection rate is. If we knew the true numbers of deaths and infections, no one would leave their home. Also masks are a bad idea as it only makes the likely hood of touching your face higher.

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    Tim   May 4, 2020 at 3:59 pm

    Had to point out. Based on a report of 650+ positive cases in the big bend on another media outlet. Okay. Feel free to correct my math or confirm my numbers. Based on the total population (most stats from 2018, so probably now higher), the population in the same Big Bend areas listed Is 618,520. Or a covid infection rate of .001%. A death rate of .00004%. Again if my numbers or percentages are off I’d like to hear but probably not by much. All deaths and illnesses are sad and tragic, however in my opinion the current statistics do not justify a mandatory shutdown and closures that we are currently experiencing. When a person sees just the headlines the media puts out there to get attention without including all the facts, that panders the fear mongering.

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    Rick Mazur   May 2, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Nice information. I would also like to see county data and include the number of test conducted each day like Gov DeSantis described a few days ago in his TV briefing. As I recall he referred to that graph as “Positivity” and stated it is the most important tool to look at all this data.

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    Bill   May 2, 2020 at 11:58 am

    Facts first, the KKK has mutated into what everybody knows are Southern republicans, except what changes besides hating everyone that’s not white, they include all poor whites. So expect more voter repression, less benefits that ya can’t even get what’s out there now, and health care that already the worst in the country. So all you poor folk get out there and get sick, fill the pockets of Republicans pockets with more money.

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    Barbara M   April 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm

    This is TERRIFIC data, thank you. What jumps out at me, though on April 30 is that if we look at the WHITE HOUSE CRITERIA wanting 14 days of falling Hospitalizations, and falling new cases, we have NOT achieved both. The trend line for hospitalizations is barely changing.
    So if we follow the directions that TRUMP released a few weeks ago for the phased reopening, looking to see 14 DAYS OF DECLINE, FL SHOULD NOT YET BE REOPENING.
    Those were the criteria they set out!

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      Jon   May 2, 2020 at 9:38 pm

      We have one hospitalization per day in Leon County.

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    Terry   April 30, 2020 at 4:30 am

    Regarding the New Cases graph, shouldn’t there be a graph of some kind indicating the very low number of test kits available in Tallahassee daily?

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    Jason   April 28, 2020 at 4:43 pm

    Hey, Allison, why don’t you go watch a little more CNN & MSNBC? You’ll feel better. Or, better yet – get a job.

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    Edward Lyle   April 28, 2020 at 8:15 am

    Wow Allison… bitter much?

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    Allison   April 28, 2020 at 3:56 am

    The rich will continue to stay safe at home even if the state re-opens. It is always those who HAVE to work who force themselves to go to work even when they feel lousy. You think Barron Trump will be going back to school anytime soon? No. But all other kids will have to if they open schools. If you didn’t need to work because of financial security, and you and your spouse had health issues, would you go out like it’s any other day? If you had kids would you feel comfortable letting them go back to school now…if it means possibly bringing Covid-19 home and Gramma lives with you? And for those who keep saying how great the economy was before Covid-19 came along (ala Trump’s bragging the same)…how come so many people in our country are broke and standing in food bank lines after no income for a couple of weeks? Millions of people living paycheck to paycheck and/or working two jobs just to make ends meet is NOT the definition of a great economy. Those who invest in the stock market might agree with Trump, but most Americans don’t make enough money to save anything from their checks. That ain’t “great”. I’m sure Bubba, donning his MAGA hat and guzzlin’ suds in his trailer, while watching FOX, just believes what he hears. Go on back to work…risk your health and the health of others, even though the economy was and won’t be great still. Hurry! That hamster wheel is cold from inactivity!

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      Jon   April 28, 2020 at 12:43 pm

      Allison, thats why people work, save, spend wisely. You should ask why everyone isnt emulating the rich.

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      Rusty   April 29, 2020 at 8:10 am

      Allison, you can overcome your fear of death and that of your loved ones by believing and sharing the good news of God, which is briefly summarized below:

      God made the world and everything in it. Therefore, He is the owner and rightful ruler of the entire universe, and we are all accountable to Him.

      However, the Bible tells us, and our consciences remind us, that we have all sinned against God. We have all rebelled against God and sought to live by our own rules and desires. We disobey His law by lying, lust, sinful anger, selfishness, and many other ways. God is a just and righteous judge. He will judge all who have disobeyed Him, sentencing them to Hell for eternity.

      But God, in His love and mercy, made a way by which He could uphold His justice and forgive the guilty. He sent His Son, Jesus, into the world. Jesus is fully God and now fully man. By becoming a man, He was able to live the perfect life God required of us and to die and take the penalty we deserve for our sin. He was raised from the dead so that our sins could be fully paid for, and we could have His perfect life counted for us.

      This is the good news of God. The Bible says that if you will turn from your sin and trust in Jesus as your Savior, relying on His death and resurrection as your only hope of satisfying God’s demands, you will be forgiven by God and given new and eternal life. How will you respond? Will you trust in your own goodness on judgment day, or will you trust Jesus now?

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    Skeptical   April 28, 2020 at 2:57 am

    Are new cases really going down OR is there just a shortages of test kits? Bond Clinic only had five test kits?

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    Snidely Whiplash   April 27, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Whooo this is new:
    Look closely at the new graph.
    It’s clearly telling us we must cower in fear, binge watch Net Flix, and get fat untill right after Joe Biden is elected.
    Look closely now….there you see it too!!!

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    Curtis   April 27, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    FYI with about 17 degrees of freedom (df = n – 1; 4/8 through 4/26 -> n=18; df = 18 – 1 = 17), TR could probably extend that declining trendline at least two weeks (i.e., 14 days, or until around 5/10), maybe three, if you wanted to push it.

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    Oliver   April 27, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    How is the black trend line calculated? It looks strangely low for the first half of the data.

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      Staff   April 27, 2020 at 7:43 pm

      The black line is a seven day average. Therefore, at 3/27 the black line represents an average of the cases reported from 3/21-3/27. The reported cases on four of those days were below 300.

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    NVC   April 27, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    I am a physician and work in a risk-associated environment. I wash my hands 20x per day, encourage social distancing . I wear a mask whenever I am out of my home. I wear it to go to the grocer, the pharmacist, and certainly when in my office seeing patients. I have not seen my grandson in 6 weeks as there is fear I could bring an infection into his home or their household could pass it on to me- the old guy in the group.
    The mask says two things: 1. We live in very uncertain times. 2. It is, however, very certain that I will do all the things we currently accept that will reduce the risk of my hurting anyone else (family, friend, stranger) or myself.
    No , you are not stupid. Find a more enlightened group of souls.

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    John Hill   April 27, 2020 at 10:08 am

    Young, healthy, need to work? No senior citizens in your household? Okay, fine, go back to work, but is it asking too much to wear a god damned mask? In pictures from China EvERYONE is wearing masks including Xi. Here, by contrast, no one is, including Trump. Now we have maybe 20 tomes the Covid cases as China. Coincidence? I was at a gathering yesterday among 50 other souls and I was the only one wearing a mask. So am I the stupid one?

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      News Maven   April 27, 2020 at 5:13 pm

      Yes.
      Any other questions, sheeple?

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      Jon   April 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm

      Not stupid, but neither was anyone else. Theres a 99.99% chance no one at your gathering had the virus, Why not wear a helmet too in case you fell down, which is far more likely.

      Point being you dont NEED a mask, but it doesnt hurt.

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    Lynn   April 26, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    I support the thought that groceries and stores like Walgreens, even doctors offices could continue to close early, disinfect and have the vulnerable to come in early. That is obviously working where I live in the hot spot of south Florida because the same people are working in Publix, Sams, and other stores that I shop at and they have been there for the 6 weeks we have all be quarantined. I would love for anyone who feels it is a problem for them personally to feel free to stay home and get delivery. I deliver to my disable sister in law. But I go out 3 to 4 times a week to pick up groceries, a meal I ordered, drop off a package at the post office. But one thing we need to remember – people cannot get elective surgery – that includes any elective surgery like a colonoscopy, a biopsy, a baby getting tubes in their ears to relieve serious pain, an ACL for someone who tore it before the stay at home. And this does not address families in unhealthy situations, people in depression, or suicidal. There has to be some balance, and opening a few things here and there is needed.

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    Cynthia   April 26, 2020 at 12:23 am

    I would support more business openings if we could ALL have n95 masks. Those are the only thing that prevent the virus from entering your body, and that’s not 100%. But of course our federal government can’t figure out how to produce those masks OR tests either. Until then, it has to be lockdown for everybody.

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    Uncle Matt   April 25, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    I neither know anyone who has Kung-flu nor do I know anyone who knows anyone who HAS or HAD it. With that knowledge, and after reading “how to lie with statistics” in the 10th grade I doubt a lot of the accuracy of the data, the source of the data, and the relevance of certain bits of data.

    It seems that we hear a lot of suggestions/mandates/conclusions that are based on questionable data at best…..anecdotes at the least.

    NOBODY has the answer right now and we are NEVER going to not be susceptible to this or any other current or future virus so then this then becomes, or in my humble opinion SHOULD become, a personal decision. Stay inside if you feel safest that way or go out with PPE or just go out and get on with your life and try not to jeopardize anyone’s else’s health. But for the love of GOD please don’t continue to trample on my freedoms, my rights, or my livelihood.

    This, my friends, is why the second amendment is the second amendment!

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    Way O Verblown   April 25, 2020 at 10:55 am

    I think LB + Lena should take their own advise and NEVER LEAVE THEIR HOUSES AGAIN!!
    Party at my place!

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    Lena   April 24, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    This situation is serious.

    There are some days when the virus is the leading cause of death in the US.

    There is no vaccine and no cure.

    The only thing you can do is try to stop it from spreading.

    Or you can end up like Albany, GA where one infected person reportedly made 1,400 sick and killed 100 people. As Albany is only less than two hours away, I’m not sure why this hasn’t been the top story here.

    Worst case scenario seems to be Ecuador where corpses are not picked up and have been left rotting in homes and in the street.

    Yeah, it’s a serious problem and King of Stupid saying you could drink bleach or fry yourself with UV light is further insanity.

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      Jon   April 25, 2020 at 11:47 am

      Not the only thing you can do. 99% of people can fight it naturally with antibodies, recover in a couple weeks at most and get on with their lives instead of hiding and obsessing about Trump.

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    Jay Dub   April 22, 2020 at 6:56 am

    Not a single person asked for this to happen and people are dying every day. If it affected any of the people spreading hate and blame it would change their tune. Stay safe and avoid those who choose to be ignorant. People can go back to work when it’s safe.

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      Jon   April 22, 2020 at 11:27 am

      Great, lets go back to work then, because its safe. Almost no one in Leon County has it. Almost everyone who does have it has minor symptoms.

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    Snidely Whiplash   April 21, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    At this point we need to shelter Grandmom, Grandpop, and all our disabled citizens. Some others also with underlying health issues.
    The remainder of you healthy able bodied folks are gonna report for work ASAP.
    That’s right you!
    No more binge watching no more pajamas in the daytime no more masturbation alcohol and drug enhanced marathons all day for you lazy pukes. Yes its time to un-ass from the comfy couch and report for work for all of you!!!
    Open our beloved economey back up.
    No disrespect intended but you all need to get to work, wear masks, use hand sanitizer, and whatever. But it over already.
    If you follow the basic protection you still might get sick but you will survive what will be no more than maybe a bad cold for you healthy folks. Stop being whiney diaper babies and take your ass back to work.

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    Chuck   April 20, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    I wonder why hospitalizations spike on the weekends? Are people working all week, then when they have a little time off going to get seen? Maybe they only have time to take loved ones on the weekend? Seems like an interesting dynamic…

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    Amy Adamski   April 20, 2020 at 9:42 am

    Since not testing would be a great way to keep numbers down….I’d like to see a chart with testing figures as well.

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    Trudy Peterson   April 20, 2020 at 3:19 am

    This graph is only reflective of testing and hospitalization. Duval county testing sites were down last week due to rain. It neither accounts for deaths only hospitalizations. Many, like nursing homes do not go to hospitals. These charts are misleading. Considered they are not from an independent source I have to wonder if they are politically driven. Good luck Lenny Curry on your meet with POUS.

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    Penny   April 20, 2020 at 12:41 am

    I know a few of my relatives were sick different times.. called doctor was directed where to go. Fever shortness of breath etc. None were given the test.. sent home with inhalers and antibiotics they were sick at least two weeks antibiotics didnt make it better but about the 14th day they just got better. They dont want to even test you unless gasping for breath. I think that’s why so many die at home or dont get to the hospital in time.. causing them to need a ventilator. Not a good chance of making it at that point. Just saying for sure cases are not getting reported because they are not testing you unless you need oxygen or worse. Not a single one of relatives were tested…we cant be the only ones this has happened to.

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      Jon   April 20, 2020 at 5:17 pm

      And yet we have 90% negative tests? How does that square?

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    Peggy Berry   April 19, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    I certainly am hopeful that with the beaches opening for “athletic’s, swimming, dog walking…but no sunbathing!!!!!. I found it interesting to see pictures of people lying on the beach. And forget the 6′ distance. Those of you who want your freedom….go for it, but leave me and mine ALONE, AND God forbid you get ill, remember….it was you who wanted freedom. To hell with the rest of the world. The attitude of many Americans is everyone for themselves, and God for no one. Let me tell you. I am a semi-retired RN, with a BSN, and am board certified. I have dealt with HTLV3, AIDS, ARC. I have worked on every floor there is. For heavens sake people, follow the rules. Wear a mask, stay 6′ away from each other. We nurses work hard enough without some non-compliant people who wonder….gee what happened” please please show care for yourselves, family, friends, the guy down the street.

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    Lp   April 19, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    Is it possible, the reason that they aren’t testing as many people in Leon county, because they aren’t being directed to do so. I thought that you had to have signs/symptoms to be tested, pretty much directed by your doctor to a testing center.

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    Jon   April 19, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Not seeing a down trend yet, so still wait and see. However, does 200 hospitalized per day really require everyone losing their job and businesses? Or 1 hospitalization per week in Leon?

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    Edward Lyle   April 19, 2020 at 8:43 am

    This is what happens when you let agenda-driven, taxpayer-funded, grant-dependent “scientists” play with a altered and modified SIMs game…

    No one should believe or react to any of this nonsense. No Informed American should accept any of this until we’re shown empirical data and a side-by-side comparative chart that depicts and compares the “real” year-to-date number of deaths “caused by” Covid-19 here in America… to the year-to-date number of deaths from the common flu, car wrecks, diabetes, cancer, abortion, trip and falls, et al…

    But this will never happen, lest we expose the ruse and manufactured hysteria that is designed to destroy our economy and Republic. Wake up America!

    May God continue to bless and protect America, Her President, Her Constitution, Her Laws, Her Sovereignty, and Her Citizens.

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    Snidely Whiplash   April 17, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    While The Trump virus is recognized by all thinking people on Earth to be the left’s last desperate hope to fling dooky on Trump before the Great Conservative 2020 presidential landslide, thats just a bunch of fluff like Russia Russia and Impeach Impeach Impeach, everybody knows we need to get back to work.
    Will people die from The Left’s Trump virus after we open up and get back to work? Hell yes some will die. Are we gonna get back to work? Hell yes we are gonna get back to work!!!
    Will Virus Virus Virus prevent Trump from being elected? Hell no Virus Virus Virus will NOT prevent Trump from being re elected.
    The left is so lame!!!!

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      margaretmac   April 17, 2020 at 9:14 pm

      HELL YES!! No re-election of the egomaniacal, ignorant, moron!?

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        Edward Lyle   April 19, 2020 at 8:45 am

        Why bring SpINO Pelosi into this?

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    Lena   April 17, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    The virus is now the LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH in the US.

    “COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the deadliest disease in the United States, killing more people per day than cancer or heart disease. According to a graph published Tuesday by Dr. Maria Danilychev, who practices in San Diego…”

    OK. We should NOT be returning to business as usual because we would just be infecting thousands of more people.

    ONE INFECTED PERSON was all it took to make thousands of others sick and kill about 80 people in Albany, Georgia when they weren’t taking this situation seriously enough.

    Why does anyone want thousands more infected and dead people, after which, the economy will be ruined again anyway?

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      Jon   April 17, 2020 at 12:41 pm

      This week sure. This year not even close.

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    TJ   April 17, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Forgive this idiot’s questions and rant-filled diatribe, but:

    Why is the pandhandle of Florida not being tested to the same degree that south Florida is? Our neighbors to the north in Georgia have a huge number of positives along the FL/GA border, we have a huge number of positives in LA, Alabama, the rest of Florida, yet the panhandle is not being tested? I have done a daily check on the FL dept of health Covid website for the last few weeks, everyday they tested, we had the state average of 10% positive returns on tests. Leon county alone was adding roughly 10 to 20 new cases every day. Then the testing stopped. The tests in Leon county stalled for about 4 days at roughly 1950 tests done. No new tests (or so minimal it didn’t move the counter), no new positives. Did they do this to keep the numbers artificially low? All of sudden, they began testing again. Testing numbers went over 2k, and what do you know, positives went up another 10% with it. The population of Leon county is close to 300k, yet the county has only performed 2k tests – that is less than 1% of the popluation. The local hospital even stated that they are showing more hospitalized and positive patients than are being reported by the department of health, to which the DoH said, we are looking into the discrepancies. . .
    Is Leon county hiding their numbers? Why are they not testing? There is no sickness in the capital, nothing to see here? Political Gain?
    Just a frustrated resident that wants to know the truth and what is going on…

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      Margaret mac   April 17, 2020 at 9:10 pm

      Just try to find tests!! We’re not getting many according to medical staff. Probably punishment for being a blue county??

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    TONY   April 17, 2020 at 7:12 am

    I just read an article this morning that a federal Leon County prison WORKER tested positive for coronavirus. I’m thinking, he caught it and brought it into the Prison. With that said, why doesn’t Prisons and Jails have someone standing at the Entrance checking the Temperatures of all those coming in? Same thing for all State, City & County Buildings. With all the Stay Home and Work From Home orders, there are very few people in those Buildings. Make all those Buildings “One Way In / One Way Out” so it can be controlled.

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      DeepStateProvocateur   April 17, 2020 at 7:28 am

      @Tony –

      One of the reasons that COVID spreads so much more rapidly than the standard flu is that you can be spreading it for days without showing any symptoms yourself. Sure, if you have a fever, you might have it. But not having a fever is no indication you are COVID free. Just staying home once you are sick doesn’t do anything about the time frame before you got sick where you can still spread the virus.

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        Jon   April 17, 2020 at 11:19 am

        Deep, that’s how the flu spreads too. We just dont track it obssessivly and millions of people vaccinate. 50 million people got the flu last year in the us.

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          John Provenzano   April 20, 2020 at 4:41 pm

          This is different. Everyone gets sick quickly not over the span of a year. Then the hospitals get overrun. Are you not seeing what is happening in New York and THE WHOLE WORLD!

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            Jon   April 21, 2020 at 12:02 pm

            Yeah, thats life. We have one million beds just in hospitals in the US. 99% of people are unaffected, have no worse than flu symptoms. Florida’s hospital capacity is only 38% full. Leon county has one hospitalization a week. Was it worth panicking?

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    Rich   April 17, 2020 at 6:10 am

    The cure is worse than the disease. Get us reopened asap. We can always close again if we turn into NY. It’s not about lives vs. health, its about lives vs. lives. Put on a mask and get to work. I feel like we are all “Marvin the Martian” waiting for the big boom. There has never been a big boom here. I’m starting to question the models that said 2.2 million people would die even with Social distancing. This was completely false and we are still using these models. I’m throwing a b’s flag on some of this. Let’s proceed with caution and get reopened now!!!

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      TONY   April 17, 2020 at 9:38 am

      The cure is worse than the disease? Seriously? You could DIE from the Disease or put up with a few weeks of being alone and filling bad………… I will take a few weeks of being alone and filling bad ANY day. You are not THAT important to risk any ones LIFE because YOU think you are special.

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        Calendar Much?   April 17, 2020 at 10:45 am

        We are well past “a few weeks” knucklehead.

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        Rich   April 17, 2020 at 2:14 pm

        IWake up Tony. t’s lives vs lives. Watch the drug and alcohol rates rise. Suicide rates rise. Crime rates rise as we keep everything closed. Staying away from work will cost lives also.

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          Nick   April 30, 2020 at 10:03 am

          This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard

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        jgo   April 20, 2020 at 8:06 pm

        Yes. The risk is very low. The likelihood of recovery is high.

        And then I can run (well, walk) out and do something far more risky: crossing Tennessee Street near the U to get to the library, confronting power-mad privacy violators, spraying chrysanthemum, geranium, &/or eucalyptus juice on the fierce mosquitoes the city breeds (capable of carrying dengue, yellow fever, malaria, or more commonly locally, encephalitis).

        Do a StartPage or DuckDuckGo search and weigh your risks. CDCP says:
        647,457 die from heart disease in a year
        599,108 from malignant neoplasms
        121,494 from Alzheimer’s complications
        83,564 from diabetes
        73,990 from illicit drugs
        55,672 from influenza & pneumonia
        50,633 from nephritis & related problems
        47,173 from suicide
        41,743 from liver dysfunction
        40,231 from vehicular accidents (down from over 50K back in 1950s, up from about 37K some years ago)
        35,823-80K from ethanol consumption
        35,316 from hypertension
        31,963 from Parkinson’s
        30,488 from prostate cancer
        15K murdered (aggregate all means)

        There are far too many Reds for it to be a blue county.

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          Charley   August 27, 2020 at 4:41 pm

          6 months in, covid beats everything on your list except heart disease and malignant neoplasms.

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    Lia   April 13, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    There is still not enough testing being done to be certain it is not going to go up! I live in the Villages where testing is nearly impossible to get! Many do not even know of opportunity to request testing at the county health department, if they qualify that is. I found out, made an appointment, was there earlier than my appointed time and there was no body there! ? The people here already have a false sense of security with low numbers and death toll, have gotten a very late start on mitigation efforts, so numbers are going to spike before they go down in this area.?

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      DeepStateProvocateur   April 13, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      @Lia –

      “I live in the Villages where testing is nearly impossible to get!”

      Clearly false. Trump has said repeatedly that there are plenty of tests. A tremendous number. Anyone who wants to be tested, can be tested.

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        TONY   April 17, 2020 at 7:16 am

        President Trump is NOT the one handing them out. You need to Call or Email your Elected Officials and ask them WHY your area is not getting the need Tests.

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          Adele   April 19, 2020 at 11:26 pm

          Go to your local Health Department.. but if you are not sick stay home!

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        Donna   April 25, 2020 at 3:34 pm

        Are you kidding you must not have kids and if you do I feel very sorry for them. This is not a joke ppl are dying it’s very sad actually of what is going on as a mother I wouldn’t allow my kids near a school or go back to work you need a reality check…

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        RN   April 28, 2020 at 7:40 pm

        Oh because Trump said it, it must be true. I am a nurse and I ASSURE YOU that until yesterday you could not get a test unless you had symptoms, even then you had to be referred by your doctor or in the hospital.

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          Mike   May 5, 2020 at 8:35 am

          This post is so true. Trump says we have lots of tests. Wrong. He has assured us we would be safe from the virus at least 34 times [Washington Post]. We have lost countless lives because of Trump’s stupidity. We need anyone besides someone with the brain power of a squirrel to run this country.

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            Robert E Powers   August 22, 2020 at 12:13 pm

            I like that the brain of a squirrel!I refer to him as the”PIG”< PLAN? WHAT PLAN!So tired of his INCOMPETENCE! HE HAS TO GO!!!

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          Tony   August 19, 2020 at 12:36 pm

          Why would you get a test if your not sick?you do not need one if your not sick thats like getting a test for strep but your throat feels fine.

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            Charley   August 27, 2020 at 4:48 pm

            to get clearance to go back to work after an exposure.

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    TONY   April 13, 2020 at 8:09 am

    I just heard that the Democrat has a Leon County Zip Code Chart now. 32304 has the highest COVID-19 Cases.

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    John   April 13, 2020 at 8:04 am

    Is it true the Corona Virus testing is more likely to be a false negative than a false positive?

    Also folks being tested are being tested because they are suspect of having the virus?So, if they test negative now they could still potentially get it later?

    Wonder how many folks might have virus but don’t realize it because they previously had test and the outcome was negative because the test was innacurate or given prior to them actually getting the virus?

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      Claire Z   April 30, 2020 at 9:58 am

      John, yes there are more false negatives than false positives. And, yes a person can test negative if he is so newly infected that the virus’s DNA doesn’t show up yet in the test, and yes it means that person can still get the virus at any time in the future.

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    James   April 13, 2020 at 7:09 am

    Time to go back to work, school and play. This is way overblown.

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      LB   April 13, 2020 at 10:09 am

      Seriously? You’re willing to gamble when the risk is life or death? Do us all a favor and make sure you are clearly marked so we can avoid you.

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        Donna Thompson   April 16, 2020 at 10:32 pm

        Happy to, so long as our family and our employees can earn a living, keep our business afloat, and pay our bills. I’ll wear a shiny gold star, like the Jews did in Nazi Germany.

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          Gene   April 22, 2020 at 3:59 pm

          every time I hear such simplistic arguments aided by emotionally inflammatory rhetoric, I feel that every American should be required to take a Logic course during K-12 so you’d know how weak and bogus your conclusions are. I know they seem logical to you because you do not know how to differentiate. But to me I always feel I’m at a bar at 2 AM listening to all the drunks solving the world’s problems or back in High School where the nerds were shunned and disregarded as the rest grew up to be the ones that shun elites and disregard science cause it makes them feel better about themselves and their cognitive abilities.

          Perhaps instead of the gold star you could wear your IQ score or level of schooling.

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            Greg   May 6, 2020 at 3:28 pm

            Does that logic course include liberals or only liberal logic? LiberalismIsAMentalDisorder

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            Rob   August 29, 2020 at 6:43 am

            Check out the “Dunning-kruger” effect. Basically the theory is that the less intellectually endowed one is, the less capable one is of knowing that they lack the intellect to judge their own intellectual capabilities.
            In other words, they are too dumb to know how dumb they are!!?

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            DGB   August 29, 2020 at 3:47 pm

            I did check out the “Dunning-Kruger” effect. I had never heard of it before. Their theory was first published twenty-one years ago, and it inspired a bunch of follow-on study. But as of 2020, their conclusions have all been shown to be totally fictitious. It was nothing more than bad math. It’s really strange that it took twenty years for competent mathematicians to reexamine the statistical biases that were propagated through two decades of work by many psychologists.

            No matter how much we might agree that something is true, we’ve got to believe the math. There’s a lesson here. (BTW. I intend no criticism of opinions here. But I can’t pass a chance to identify flaws in logic.)

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          KS   May 5, 2020 at 5:45 pm

          EXACTLY!!! ??

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        james   April 17, 2020 at 11:02 am

        Go hide in your closet. This is a fraud and will be proven so whether you want to believe it or not.

        Mortality rate will end up being the same as the swine flu one tenth of one percent.

        Grow up

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          RN   April 28, 2020 at 7:15 pm

          How do you account for 58,906 people dying in two months WITH most of the country shut down? That would be 352,000 deaths if nothing changes. So what would happen without this shutdown? When have they had to build overflow hospitals in the US? When has Italy just let people die because they do not have enough beds, nurses and doctors, vents…that did not happen with the swine flu. Running out of PPE? This did not happen with swine flu in 2009, not even close. No one was told to wear a bandana as a mask all day in my 30 years of nursing.

          I agree it does not have an average 3% mortality as now is apparent both because we have not overwhelmed health care so we have enough to take care of folks unlike Spain and Italy. Not sure what it will end up being but this is MUCH more serious that swine flu and certainly more serious than the regular flu.

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          Gregg   August 14, 2020 at 2:51 am

          This didn’t age well.

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            Linn   August 19, 2020 at 9:46 am

            Ditto that ^. The death count per day is currently trending upward. Per day. Terrible irony. Sad to see the early posts here.

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          Charley   August 27, 2020 at 4:44 pm

          still think it’s fraud?

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          James   August 28, 2020 at 7:45 pm

          4 months later and you’re right! ? this entire shamdemic is just that! Political Sham!

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        Jessica   April 25, 2020 at 11:19 am

        The risk is always life or death everyday. You can die walking across the street.

        Less than 2% of the global population has been infected with Covid19.

        Of the 2% over 80% have a mild case with favorable outcomes.
        Of the 2% only 20% have severe cases needing hospital care.
        The death rate is still being calculated but it is less than 10% of the global 2%.

        2019 Flu killed over 80,000 people the economy did not shut down.

        This is more political than a risk to the general population.

        At this point people who don’t known what to do to protect themselves are a perfect example of Darwin’s survival of the fittest.

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          Kathleen   April 26, 2020 at 11:37 am

          You data is not accurate. The flu deaths are globally and for 1 year. Compare that to Corona deaths of more than 200,000 in a 7-week period. This is a serious virus that doesn’t just kill old people.

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            BCush   April 30, 2020 at 12:37 pm

            Not correct. According to who, the global death rate for the flu is much higher than 80K. “The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths. [21] In the United States, individual cases of seasonal flu and flu-related deaths in adults are not reportable illnesses; consequently, mortality is estimated by using statistical models. [1]” Also, in 98% of the deaths from corona virus, the deceased had an underlying condition.

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          Stacey   May 9, 2020 at 7:56 am

          Spot on!!!! Jessica

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            Searfarer   May 10, 2020 at 9:46 am

            Agree. This wasn’t worth shutting down whole economy and ruining many businesses. Some will never come back.

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            Pam   August 13, 2020 at 8:23 pm

            Flu deaths are only estimated not tracked,manses on a model that is where the number comes from. Er dr, in Boston said he doesn’t remember anyone on his watch of 22 years dying from the flu as well as his team. So it is not a large number like you said. I m 65 never knew anyone who die from the flu.

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        Lynn   May 11, 2020 at 9:55 am

        Stay home and you won’t have to worry about catching Coronavirus. Let the people that want to work go about their business.

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          George Benitez   May 11, 2020 at 1:57 pm

          Lynn, you must have a nice amount of money to think this way! Some of us, have to work or we cannot survive! So, you stay home and cower!

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        Sp   August 21, 2020 at 11:15 am

        The great thing is your welcome to stay home, lock your kids in their room, and shut your business.

        Pleased don’t be surprised those of us looking at the data choose a different course.

        I believe your family will be much worse off medically from locking down – and may already be based on the fear.

        Godspeed and please make the best decision for your family and leave ours alone. Clearly you can put yourself in a situation where you never even get a cold virus. Most if us are willing to take that risk to live the life we choose to live.

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      News Maven   April 13, 2020 at 6:54 pm

      Correct.
      And it set a very dangerous precedent.
      23x more Opoid OD deaths in LA than deaths from the Kung Flu. Where is the media outrage over that?
      The Fake News & their sheeple destroyed in one month three years worth of economic progress. SAD!

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        Chris   April 16, 2020 at 7:43 pm

        They have a choice with the opioids but not the flu.

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        Donna Thompson   April 16, 2020 at 10:29 pm

        agreed

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          Donna Thompson   April 16, 2020 at 10:30 pm

          reopenamericanbusiness dot com

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        RN   April 28, 2020 at 7:35 pm

        People did not destroy three years of economic progress Covid19 did. Neither the fake news nor the sheeple made a decision to shut the US down, Governors and the President did. Do you think for half a second Trump would do that if he could safely stay open?

        I guess the “fake news” staged the photos of overrun healthcare systems. Maybe the nurses are lying about working 16 hour days back to back (um nope I am an RN and a friend went to NYC, they are working that much, they have had shortages of PPE, and the hospitals are bursting at the seams in couple of areas in the city). The “fake news” baits him with blame and confrontational decisions ans statements he has made, rather than asking legit questions. But this is very real, and very serious.

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          patrick tonkovich   May 7, 2020 at 5:34 pm

          I agree…when people say it’s political, think about it, yes it’s political suicide ..and wiping out all of our economic progress…but we will persevere and come out other side

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        Charley   August 27, 2020 at 4:38 pm

        Which LA do you mean?

        louisiana, Opioid overdose deaths in 2018: 1140
        louisiana, covid deaths so far in 2020: 4,851

        Los Angeles County, opioid overdose deaths in 2017: 488
        Los Angeles County, covid deaths so far in 2020: 5,663

        Are you talking about a different LA?

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      AJ   April 17, 2020 at 12:33 am

      Oh honey it is definitely not overblown. I would love to have our beaches and parks open more than anything however there are to many untrustworthy folks who think it is overblown to make it happen sooner than later. The ones who had to be made to stay home that wouldn’t, ruined it. It is what it is. I have lost 3 people who were working to help the rest if us. Them RIP the overblowers hope you find peace in rest. Get to know yourself again or for the 1st time. You may or may not like yourself! But please be smart and stay safe.

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    CHARLES WILLIAMS SR   April 12, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    Worth watching, but Florida is most likely just entering the uprise of the “Confirmed Cases” and “Deaths” curves over this weekend. According to the U of Washington predictive graphs Florida will be escalating over the next 2 weeks until peaking around April 23. Of course, all is subject to change, influenced by the Passover and Easter Weekend events, and any nonessential return to work over the rest of the month. My thoughts.

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    Curious   April 12, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    nice. A color-coded map of the cases by county would be good too!

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